Haven't been able to play it vs control yet so dunno.I don't see a reason not to play 8. Improves theI feel like there should at lest 4 one drops.So no one drops?1 Purphorous in devotion red, where everything is RR or more should be ok (I think).
control matchups, which are the deck's weak point.
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Does yarpus have access to it? or redthirst? Because I've been on Elsepth for a WHILE and they know how long. It's not a credit thing as much as it has been an argument between me and yarpus for some time.Then you better go read the thread, because you were absolutely not the first.I take full credit for the Elspeth in this list.
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EDIT: Well, you may not have access to it, didn't realize it was still in our brewery. But we've been on Elspeth for a while, so hush.
"You think you can get away with playing 1 baddie? Fuck you, let's play 2 baddies."
Also, I think 1-2 Purphoros in Red Devotion Wins might be a real Magic: The Gathering card. Not 30$ good, but just... being good, doing some work.
You're on crack. The card does nothing and you're a terrible dumbfuck for even thinking of playing it.



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For referenceIt matters only when it's Purge the Profane good.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=purge

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What actually got me into Elspeth train were:
- discussion with Sedai on Sally (he planted a seed of doubt "Can 6CMC planeswalker be playable?")
- feedback here in Fires forum (people were often winning games just because of how inevitable Elsy can be)
- watching SCG open (resolving Elspeth was probably the strongest play anyone could do during the tournament)
So, I think all of you guys are kind of involved in the process. Thanks for conviencing me that I really can't afford Kuroda Boros <highfiveifuckinghateyou>.
In terms of Purphoros discussion - read the whole thing. I meant singleton Purphoros in Red Devotion Wins, not building a deck around it. Still, read whole previous page - what happens after is just hilarious.
It does... literally.
- discussion with Sedai on Sally (he planted a seed of doubt "Can 6CMC planeswalker be playable?")
- feedback here in Fires forum (people were often winning games just because of how inevitable Elsy can be)
- watching SCG open (resolving Elspeth was probably the strongest play anyone could do during the tournament)
So, I think all of you guys are kind of involved in the process. Thanks for conviencing me that I really can't afford Kuroda Boros <highfiveifuckinghateyou>.
In terms of Purphoros discussion - read the whole thing. I meant singleton Purphoros in Red Devotion Wins, not building a deck around it. Still, read whole previous page - what happens after is just hilarious.

Now I understand what Kamahl meant when he said Purge the Profane shits on Aggro matchup.
It does... literally.
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Don't ask me. Elspeth ain't something I'd play or likely worry too much about playing against so I don't bother to keep up.Does yarpus have access to it? or redthirst? Because I've been on Elsepth for a WHILE and they know how long.

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Is THAT what you call discussion? You being belligerent and dickish and me somewhat calmly correcting you.What actually got me into Elspeth train were:
- discussion with Sedai on Sally (he planted a seed of doubt "Can 6CMC planeswalker be playable?")
- feedback here in Fires forum (people were often winning games just because of how inevitable Elsy can be)
- watching SCG open (resolving Elspeth was probably the strongest play anyone could do during the tournament)
So, I think all of you guys are kind of involved in the process. Thanks for conviencing me that I really can't afford Kuroda Boros <highfiveifuckinghateyou>.

EDIT: Damn right
you should.
Haiiro Sedai, here to shove more and more white mana symbols into your decks.
In two months I'm going to get yarpus to cast Heliod.
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I am not sure if I said she's unplayable (I could - if so, then I apologize for that). It's just... I tend to approach planeswalkers very carefully, especially ones that cost 6 mana. Elspeth proved herself to be strong, I'm fine with her now. But I wasn't sure back then - and thanks to all the feedback I got on her, I could finally decide that she's worth it.Not about Elspeth.
In terms of that careful approach, I was fucking with ya. I played Terribalt yo.
He's viable for Mono White Weenie as long as WW is viable. Unlike Zem, I actually consider this as a possibility.In two months I'm going to get yarpus to cast Heliod.

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Yarpus likes to build up a stockpile of cred and then squander it all in one post.
That's kind of his thing.
That's kind of his thing.

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You have never tasted the tears of control player being butthurt after seeing T2 Tibalt.
They are so precious.
Well, I'm specialist at squeezing in bad cards into my decks. But hey, bad cards can be good. Do I need to remind you about Pyreheart Wolf or Tumble Magnet?
They are so precious.
Well, I'm specialist at squeezing in bad cards into my decks. But hey, bad cards can be good. Do I need to remind you about Pyreheart Wolf or Tumble Magnet?
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I have never experienced the tears.
I can imagine the laughter, though...
I can imagine the laughter, though...

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I have serious doubts about this deck and his reasoning behind it:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... -devotion/
It looks like it's going to be doing a whole lot of nothing the first couple of turns.
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... -devotion/
It looks like it's going to be doing a whole lot of nothing the first couple of turns.
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@yarpus: Shuffled your list up a bit, and I think you desperately want Hammer in the 75 somewhere. 26 is a lot of lands.
re tibalt: Seeing as I was on control the whole time tibalt was legal, you're right. Also, never shed a single tear myself over him. I probably just smashed him with a resto.
@wind: Not true. It's going to take at least 6-10 damage on turns 1 and 2 then play a 0/3 after it has two lands that don't come in untapped!
It does look like it can explode pretty hard though.
re tibalt: Seeing as I was on control the whole time tibalt was legal, you're right. Also, never shed a single tear myself over him. I probably just smashed him with a resto.
@wind: Not true. It's going to take at least 6-10 damage on turns 1 and 2 then play a 0/3 after it has two lands that don't come in untapped!

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I will remind you that control decks are siding out Detention Sphere against Aggro and back in the days they packed 4 Terminus 4 Verdict against you. And they played nearly no creatures.I can imagine the laughter, though...
My opponent lost as even while he dealt with everything else that I was sending at him, repeated burns from Tibalt's -4 and later, threatening him with his ultimate made the game nightmare for him.
It's just like with Rakdos Cackler. Cackler is the scariest card for Control. Why? They have no way of dealing with him effectively other than killing him with other two guys.
Tibalt was the Rakdos Cackler of planeswalkers.

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Maybe the tears were caused by the laughter?



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@redthirst: Probably so! Maybe that's how he won. His opponent got game losses for leaving his seat. I mean after you fall out of your chair and start rolling on the floor you only have 5 minutes to get back into the chair before the game is called. It's quite possible they couldn't recover in time.
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Do you know what was a really fun planeswalker? Ajani Vengeant.
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+1: Target opponent laughs too hard to continue the game.

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Speaking of terrible cards that nobody expects, Reverberate is becoming quite the go-to card against UWR Control in my mono-red Modern deck. Reverberate your Cryptic Command targeting your Cryptic Command, draw a card? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
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Da fuq?
"Mono-Red Aggro now has only one commonly played haste creature in Chandra's Phoenix."
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27 ... ndard.html
Ash Zealot wants to kick this guy's ass for disrespecting her so badly. She can use Purphoros's Cluebat to smack some sense into him.
"Mono-Red Aggro now has only one commonly played haste creature in Chandra's Phoenix."
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27 ... ndard.html
Ash Zealot wants to kick this guy's ass for disrespecting her so badly. She can use Purphoros's Cluebat to smack some sense into him.
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Da fuq?
"Mono-Red Aggro now has only one commonly played haste creature in Chandra's Phoenix."
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27 ... ndard.html
Ash Zealot wants to kick this guy's ass for disrespecting her so badly. She can use Purphoros's Cluebat to smack some sense into him.
Ssshhhh. The more who agree with BBD the more who Ash gets to Smash.
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I Reverberated 3 Cryptic Commands in that last game, all the while lolzozllozzlozing as my Shrine of Burning Rage ticked up to lethal.
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