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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:19 am

i think you may have gotten page nath'd, fate.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:21 am

Just wanted to pop in and say Fate & Nuwen your B/r Aggro brew is solid and I am a fan. Was toying with various Rakdos Midrange decks (probably bad) but sleeved up your deck and after a few games against my brother piloting Esper control I'm sold.
Dude, my brother is a die-hard Esper and B/G/r player. So, needless to say, he's actually my best testing partner for several reasons:

1) He never has any use for the cards I use, and vice-versa, so we just give each other free shit all day. While, not technically a valid playtest point, he does enable me to build decks and acquire sweet candy. So, that's a plus.

2) He knows my style better than me sometimes. Which is good, because at times, he's playing me[/i:
145en24t] not my cards.

3) He always seems to have the worst deck for me to test against at key times. Last season, he started with Jund, which was only 3 cards off from Mark Nestico's list (who won my States), which became the premier Jund build early on last season. Then, he went Esper before he just started alternating between that, Jund, and Reanimator. He's a douche.

4) I've literally had him present brews to me weeks in advance before some Top 8 or PT (or GP) deck "got there." So he knows his shit. As it would turn out, sometimes I'm testing against the best "current" deck and don't even know it.

Anyways, your comment struck pretty close to home. You're lucky to have a bro playing a polar opposite style. It will only help you in the long run.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:22 am

Also, he's waaaaaay shorter than you would actually think he is. I'm 5'4" and I felt like I towered over him. But whatevs, he may be short, but he'll kick anyone's ass in this Clan with a goddamn Steppe Lynx.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:22 am

But, joking aside, this clan helped me through an exceptionally rough time in my life. That means a lot to me.
Hey, you guys are still helping me.

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Postby Link » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:24 am

desecration isnt an aggro card, thats a bit too tooheavu and transformative for me but if it works go go for it

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Postby Alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:28 am

desecration isnt an aggro card, thats a bit too tooheavu and transformative for me but if it works go go for it
I wouldn't play it if I was trying to stay aggressive, but the card shits all over midrange decks. To the point where being transformative is actually "transforming into unbeatable."

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:28 am

I actually hate that I have to live in my reality a year after I said, "Desecration Demon sucks right now because morbid is a thing. He''l be better after INN rotates."

I bulk rare'd all of my DD's and forgot about him. Now he's back, and at $8. He's now appearing in Modern lists.

I now have to consider him to be a factor in today's metagame.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:29 am

I learned how to play competitive magic be reading literally every mike flores article on the mothership when I was in high school. That helped a ton(even though he was a mediocre player, he was still winning/top 8ing ptqs, and was designing decks for hall of famers including finkel back in the day).

Then when I discovered other websites, I was exposed to PV and Patrick Chapin who are the best strategic magic writers period. There are other very good writes, but none as prolific as Chapin or as detailed and precise as PV.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:30 am

Is anyone else excited that hockey is back?
ohai im from canada
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:32 am

Speaking of Chapin, LP, I have his new book on PDF that I downloaded from Pirate Bay.

If anybody wants a copy, just PM me your e-mail. I'll forward it to ya'll.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:33 am

Hmm.

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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:34 am

Yeah shoot me an email, arrigato ^_____^
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:35 am

I learned how to play competitive magic be reading literally every mike flores article on the mothership when I was in high school. That helped a ton(even though he was a mediocre player, he was still winning/top 8ing ptqs, and was designing decks for hall of famers including finkel back in the day).

Then when I discovered other websites, I was exposed to PV and Patrick Chapin who are the best strategic magic writers period. There are other very good writes, but none as prolific as Chapin or as detailed and precise as PV.
I learned to play competitive Magic accidentally by posting in Z's RDW thread in Scars/INN block Standard. When he started the infamous Red Thread for RTR brewing (from which this clan was born), he sent me and others a PM
asking for contribution. I don't think I've ever learned so much than by brewing Dos Rakis and piloting it to much success.

I read Next Level Magic and got surprisingly little from it.

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Postby Alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:45 am

Next Level Magic was much more relevant when it originally came out. It's lost a lot of its appeal due to the sheer amount of strategic material we have access to in this internet age.

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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:47 am

The infamous red deck thread, that had more posts than the entire competitive subforum combined. Flippin' lol.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:02 am

Z, LP, and ham: your PDF copies of Next Level Deckbuilding have been sent.
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:08 am

Just wanted to pop in and say Fate & Nuwen your B/r Aggro brew is solid and I am a fan. Was toying with various Rakdos Midrange decks (probably bad) but sleeved up your deck and after a few games against my brother piloting Esper control I'm sold.
Dude, my brother is a die-hard Esper and B/G/r player. So, needless to say, he's actually my best testing partner for several reasons:

1) He never has any use for the cards I use, and vice-versa, so we just give each other free shit all day. While, not technically a valid playtest point, he does enable me to build decks
and acquire sweet candy. So, that's a plus.

2) He knows my style better than me sometimes. Which is good, because at times, he's playing me not my cards.

3) He always seems to have the worst deck for me to test against at key times. Last season, he started with Jund, which was only 3 cards off from Mark Nestico's list (who won my States), which became the premier Jund build early on last season. Then, he went Esper before he just started alternating between that, Jund, and Reanimator. He's a douche.

4) I've literally had him present brews to me weeks in advance before some Top 8 or PT (or GP) deck "got there." So he knows his shit. As it would turn out, sometimes I'm testing against the best "current" deck and don't even know it.

Anyways, your comment struck pretty close to home. You're lucky to have a bro playing a polar opposite style. It will only help you in the long run.
Pretty much my bro, my
buddy and I all play different decks. My bro as mentioned is Control and mainly B/U control. My buddy is normally G/W based midrange and I am of course Aggro red. We pretty much team up, test, and attempt to atleast make in the prizes every tourney we enter to fill our collected cardpool.being that we all play different strategies it helps that we don't really share cards.

Funny thing my brother played Frownyard and later Reanimator last standard season. I ended up missing those tourneys though. People tend to forget aggro is a thing here. When I manage to get away from work I am happy to remind them. :D
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:09 am

Just saw the email. Thank you :)

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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:11 am

Oh Frownyard, we hardly knew ye. You will be missed.
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My email was just filled with files titled 'privateRTdickdickdickALEX'

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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:13 am

desecration isnt an aggro card, thats a bit too tooheavu and transformative for me but if it works go go for it
I wouldn't play it if I was trying to stay aggressive, but the card shits all over midrange decks. To the point where being transformative is actually "transforming into unbeatable."
May have to give this a go just to see how it is.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:16 am

Is anyone else excited that hockey is back?
ohai im from canada
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Vancouver.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:21 am

My email was just filled with files titled 'privateRTdickdickdickALEX'

should I open or delete?
Ummm...I need an adult?
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:23 am

Oh Frownyard, we hardly knew ye. You will be missed.
Y'know, I never played with it. But maaaaaany times against it. Much like Kessig Wolf Run, I'll never know what it's like to truly wield that power, but I respect what it can do. In a weird way, I miss it the way the Joker would miss Batman if he were to die.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:28 am

Oh Frownyard, we hardly knew ye. You will be missed.
Y'know, I never played with it. But maaaaaany times against it. Much like Kessig Wolf Run, I'll never know what it's like to truly wield that power, but I respect what it can do. In a weird way, I miss it the way the Joker would miss Batman if he were to die.
This is the most profound thing I've heard all day.

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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:39 am

Quiet LP.

You're kind can't talk.

Because racism.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:42 am

"They throwin' contracts at me,

You know that nigga's can't read."
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby photodyer » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:47 am

Craig wescoe on Purphorous:

I'm not surprised this one is the highest of the five gods. He is strong and will see play. I'm hesitant to Fork out $20 for him though. He is not ten times as good as his hammer, so if you feel big things about this guy, I'd recommend investing in 40 of his hammers instead of a play set of him, unless of course you just want to play with him. Then go crazy.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:47 am

LP, if you ever had to sit in the back of the bus, I'd sit with ya. And give very white person the muthafuckin' finger.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:51 am

I'm reminded of that scene from Black Sheep. Kill Whitey!

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:54 am

I'm reminded of that scene from Black Sheep. Kill Whitey!
You can't kill a bat with a frying pan!
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:57 am

So GB aggro obliterates control and midrange. Anything there?

Core cards:
- experiment one (will be a 3/3 every game, regen)
- Lotleth troll (regen)
- Dreg mangler (scavenge)
- boon satyr (flash, bestow)
- reaper of the wilds (hexproof)
- abrupt decay (awesome vs. red, also hits ashiok, hammer, dsphere)
- doom blade / putrefy
- thoughtseize

Add scavenging ooze (main) and underworld connections post board.

Lifebane Zombie is an option as well, though difficult in the mana, and I think GW would already be easy.
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Postby windstrider » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:05 am

Z, LP, and ham: your PDF copies of Next Level Deckbuilding have been sent.
I would like a copy as well. I need to be better at strategic deck building.
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Postby windstrider » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:09 am

Craig wescoe on Purphorous:

I'm not surprised this one is the highest of the five gods. He is strong and will see play. I'm hesitant to Fork out $20 for him though. He is not ten times as good as his hammer, so if you feel big things about this guy, I'd recommend investing in 40 of his hammers instead of a play set of him, unless of course you just want to play with him. Then go crazy.
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Postby photodyer » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:11 am

My email was just filled with files titled 'privateRTdickdickdickALEX'

should I open or delete?
Ummm...I need an adult?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: -->

Dammit Khaos...I just snorted pop out my nose as I busted out laughing...my daughter is now looking at me like she's wondering how she got the "weird" dad.

I love you guys...
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Postby photodyer » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:15 am

Z, LP, and ham: your PDF copies of Next Level Deckbuilding have been sent.
I would like a copy as well. I need to be better at strategic deck building.
Now that Khaos mentioned it, I remember that I dl'd the book a while back as well. I can shoot it to you, brother windstrider.
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Postby F.I.A » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:24 am

Pyromaster ramped up in price when he was away from his keyboard back at home for a week, again

Groan, at this rate, I might have done better playing M14 Sealed event. Still, I don't think I have seen a day where red pw triumphed others in price (Koth has Elspeth following up close enough)

Or I'll just bother myself to get at least two of them.

@Photodyer: I'm interested in some read as well, so I'd be glad if you can email me as well.
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:25 am

Z, just whipped this up in response to your post. Literally slapped it together.

[Deck]
4 experiment one
3 kalonian tusker
4 scavenging ooze
2 lotleth troll
4 dreg mangler
2 boon satyr
4 reaper of the wilds
2 polukranos, world eater

3 thoughtseize
2 doom blade
2 abrupt decay
3 putrefy
1 golgari charm

4 overgrown tomb
4 golgari guildgate
5 swamp
11 forest

1 dark betrayal
1 thoughtseize
2 duress
3 ranger's guile
1 doom blade
2 golgari charm
2 underworld connections
1 hero's downfall
2 vraska the unseen
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:31 am

Kalonian hydra should be tusker.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:31 am

Gentlemen, I will be more than happy to e-mail the goods to you fine folk. However, I need e-mail addresses PM'd to me.

I'm also too lazy to look them up in the Crank Files.

Send me you addresses and you shall have you reward!
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