[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:15 pm

Roar.

Helios · Postby **Helios** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:28 pm

We really should make a Pyrored thread. Z should have the honor of starting it.

Roar.

Alright Katy Perry...

Haiiro Sedai · Postby **Haiiro Sedai** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:32 pm

Well, if you played at HQ around a year or 2 ago, I was the black guy always playing Grixis mushing on delver decks and control mirrors.

Nope. Last time I was a regular was up to shards release when I quit for a time cuz shards sucked.

And does anyone besides Z have an opinion on barrage of expendables in pyro red? I posted in the RDW thread but currently Khaos's deck is getting the lions share of discussion(which is fine and proper because he's a sexy beast).

I don't like it personally. I don't think it represents as much damage as hammer but
don't think there is room for both in the 75

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:44 pm

Barrage seems like an ok card. Low-impact one for sure - except of situations when you are actually playing Act of Treason, taking their fatty away and saccing it, dealing 1 point of salt into their injury.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:46 pm

Barrage of Expendables is worse than Tyramet if you're capable of casting Tyramet, but fine if you can't. I like it with threatens, too.

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:54 pm

I'd say it's gonna be good against UB. They want to trade 1for1 all day and have no lifegain.

Narcasus · Postby **Narcasus** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:04 pm

my first thought is it sounds amazing against the whip everyone seems to want to play. Gotta dmg the creature to gain life.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:54 pm

I generally try to avoid the Staff Lounge area, but I cruise by there every few days to see what new smilies they've incorporated for passive aggressive trolling.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:00 am

Barrage of Expendables is AWESOME. Barrage+Hammer means you truly have a deck of 100% gas.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:07 am

Did you find space in the maindeck? Or is it just sideboard tech?

It seems sweet for sure.

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:12 am

What about SB Possibility Storm? Negates the idea of playing Magic: The Gathering for UW Control.
Counterspells will most likely fizzle.
Sphinx's Revelation will just never happen.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:20 am

It's super powerful, but I don't know if it's needed in an already good matchup. Even UW is slightly favourable right now.

Any of our resident graphic designers want to mock up a DTR / FOS split banner for my stream?

I like the idea of the site banner (bright blue at the top of the page) as one part and some sort of FOS banner as the other. Open to suggestions. I want to up the quality of my stream, now that Theros is here. If I can actually get the cards (availability is an issue for a day or two) ill stream a DE this weekend. If not, sometime next week and definitely two events next weekend!

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:28 am

Could be usefull as 1-off in very control meta.
Also, Barrage of Expendables is really good for PyroDeck. Gives you an answer to big guys and Boros Reckoner. And gives you some value from board wipes. Not to mention miser UB which tries to 1for1 you all day. I don't think there's an issue to find a spot for it in PyroRed.
And gives you a good reason to play 4 Act of Treason in SB. Sad thing is there are no other sacc outlets in Red.
I still miss the deck that terrorized my LCS for ages - BR Scry Vampires. This guy played maindeck Mark of Mutiny and sacced everything he could borrow from you. It was actually very strong synergy.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:29 am

I swapped it with a Chandra, so I have the 1 maindboard barrage, and the 3rd Chandra in the board.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:44 am

Z:

If you get a nice banner image made up, I'd like to use it as well. I would like a 720p template where I could have a logo or two, the MTGO window at a sensible aspect ratio, and a chat box.

I figure that Jerry or Kat are the go-to folks for this task.

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:56 am

Warning, bad ideas incoming.
Thinking about misery two slots PyroRed has. Some options:
- Flames of the Firebrand: solid card these days. Awesome against aggro (especially when maindecked), 3 damage for 3 against control.
- Dynacharge: blowouts son. Blowouts. And random "my Zealot kills your Smiter, btch"
- ... Haunted Plate Mail. We're lacking on 4CMC slot. And it's nice to cast it against control which is supposed to sweep the board.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:59 am

Haunted Plate Mail? Too much polish cocaine I think.

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:16 am

Not enough.

F.I.A · Postby **F.I.A** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:20 am

Haunted Plated Mail discourages swarm tech, though.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:30 am

Warning, bad ideas incoming.
Thinking about misery two slots PyroRed has. Some options:
- Flames of the Firebrand: solid card these days. Awesome against aggro (especially when maindecked), 3 damage for 3 against control.
- Dynacharge: blowouts son. Blowouts. And random "my Zealot kills your Smiter, btch"
- ... Haunted Plate Mail. We're lacking on 4CMC slot. And it's nice to cast it against control which is supposed to sweep the board.

Fanatic. Of. Mogis. It will still hit for 3-5 in pyro-red.

Haiiro Sedai · Postby **Haiiro Sedai** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:48 am

Purph as a 1-2 of may not be bad. It will basically just be pandemonium but that is sick with young pyro. Also if you already have barrage and hanmer and Chandra then him being active even post wrath is a real possibility. So, folks, where the hell can I find deck lists? Don't feel like back scrolling.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:04 am

Purphoros is fucking terrible.

Decklisrs are in the RDW sub forum, as per SuperGayAlex enforced protocol.

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:25 am

I'm most probably going to test Ember Swallower in this spot. I love me some manasinks.
Also, wrote an article about PyroRed and tried to slightly format it and export into .pdf. You can check it out in secret-secret Clan forum and then decide if I should even consider finishing it. I'd love to get Zem to write the most important parts of it (playstyle/protips/gameplan) as I already covered most of the dirty work like explaining some of the card choices and stuff.

Haiiro Sedai · Postby **Haiiro Sedai** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:27 am

Purphoros is fucking terrible.

Decklisrs are in the RDW sub forum, as per SuperGayAlex enforced protocol.

Was hoping to get a link cba to browse a new forum on meh phone atm.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:58 am

I don't think he has access to the secret squirrel brewing forum yet. Tier 2 promotions should be incoming once red pulls the trigger.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:01 am

Dat Fanatic of Mogis....

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:04 am

Purphoros is fucking terrible.

Agreements. Likely no impact when it hits the board, global Firebreathing will probably never be activated since at that point you should be shaking hands.

Link · Postby **Link** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 am

OH MY GOD FNM PROMO IS GHOR CLAN RAMPAGER ME AND NUWEN SPLIT IN THE FINALS GOT TWO PROMO RAMPAGERS

HOLY SHIT COULD A MAN WANT ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:08 am

Purphoros is fucking terrible.

Decklisrs are in the RDW sub forum, as per SuperGayAlex enforced protocol.

I traded a Purphoros for a playset of Chnadra's Phoenix, which I will be shipping to Droppin Suga.

It may be blasphemy, but fuck, Purphoros. Fuck him in his goat-ass.

Haiiro Sedai · Postby **Haiiro Sedai** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:09 am

I don't think he has access to the secret squirrel brewing forum yet. Tier 2 promotions should be incoming once red pulls the trigger.

I be a nubz obv. Not expecting promotion yet.

Purphoros is fucking terrible.
Agreements. Likely no impact when it hits the board, global Firebreathing will probably never be activated since at that point you should be shaking hands.[/quote:
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Good point. I'm still in a big red frame of mind. Big Boros has ze mana luring around and can make use of pandy.

Haiiro Sedai · Postby **Haiiro Sedai** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:16 am

OH MY GOD FNM PROMO IS GHOR CLAN RAMPAGER ME AND NUWEN SPLIT IN THE FINALS GOT TWO PROMO RAMPAGERS

HOLY SHIT COULD A MAN WANT ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW

I still have a set of Soltari Priest promo.
Also love me wall of omens.

Rampager is meh, do nothing card.

/duck

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:19 am

Where did the FOS clan decklist thread go?

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:28 am

Also love me wall of omens.

I still believe Wall of Omens was the best card I've ever played in my life.
Because besides of that I play crap all the time.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:29 am

Was a good alternative to Preordain in UW for a while. And a better one, imo

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:30 am

I actually just really hated preordain so

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:33 am

Kaze, sorry but WHAT?
I played both Preordain and WoO.
That's how you get 90% winning ratio against Aggro.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:42 am

Preordain was just wrong to me.

I remember the meta being super reactive back then, UW in particular. Turn one Preordain was almost cocky. You're forced to make assumptions about what you'll need in the next few turns. Either that or you just look at the top two cards, put them back, and cantrip time. Derp mode. Preordain was bad. I felt so much above other UW players who used it.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:46 am

Bad players played turn 1 Preordain blind. You're meant to hold them until 5-6.

Yarpus · Postby **Yarpus** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:54 am

Unless you were me. I wasn't reactive. I was UW TapOut. Every single fucking game.
T1 Preordain T2 WoO T3 Seagate Oracle/Blade Splicer T4 DoJ T5 Venser T6 Sun Titan
Every. Single. Fucking. Game.

Link · Postby **Link** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:12 am

WHO THE FUCK LET THIS RED HATING ASSCLOWN IN OUR THREAD WITHOUT A GOOD HAZING

ARE WE GOING SOFT?

FIGHT ME AZO CLOWN

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