[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[windstrider]

If we dont do a bulk order, we could even make a template with the FOS logo, and everyone could apply it to their art of choice.

Oh, I like that option. Individualized playmats. Nice.

[Platypus]

Ok, modern goblins. Last two sideboard slots, what should I put there?

[deck]
Lands (20)
18 Mountain
2 Teetering Peaks

Creatures (28)
4 Akki Avalanchers
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Goblin Guide
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Goblin Chieftain

Spells (12)
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Goblin Grenade
4 Shared Animosity

Sideboard
3 Blood Moon
2 Faerie Macabre
3 Combust
3 Smash to Smithereens
2 Dismember
2 ???
[/deck]

[Khaospawn]

Fuck yes, on the Chandra playmates.

[Khaospawn]

Er...playmat.

Autocorrect sure is funny.

[hamfactorial]

Mmmm, Chandra playmate...

[rcwraspy]

Where do you guys position your battlefields? I'm a lefty so I have my deck on my left. When I started playing with Bonfire, I flipped the deck horizontal since I think that's the easiest for the miracle mechanic.

Then the g/y cascades below the deck, and the exile zone is above the deck.

Lands on bottom closest to me, creatures on top closest to opponent, and artifacts/enchantments/planeswalkers to the right somewhere between lands and creatures.

Just curious how diverse the playstyles are in case we want a mat that has divisions already printed on it.

[zemanjaski]

http://goblinartisans.blogspot.com.au/2 ... e.html?m=1

I'm a right handed and I use the same set up as you; for whatever reason I like to draw with my left while keeping my grip in my right.

[InflatablePie]

Deck on the left towards the bottom of the mat, horizontally (on my new Game Day Elspeth playmat, diagonally: right on the tip of the spear), graveyard sideways above the deck, exile sideways above the graveyard. Lands on the bottom, creatures on the top/middle, and enchantments/planeswalkers/etc. near the top right side of the mat (usually). Dice go on the very topright side of my playmat (or slightly off the playmat), same with tokens. Life totals paper/notebook in the very bottom right.

[hamfactorial]

I put my land in the back row, against the edge of the table, dudes in front. I put my deck horizontally on the top right corner of the mat with the bottom edge of the cards aligned to the right edge of the mat. I cascade the graveyard underneath it and exile stuff above it.

I'm left handed, so I hold cards in my left hand while I draw or tap stuff with my right.

When I turn dudes sideways (as I'm prone to do), I turn them clockwise.

[Platypus]

Right handed, deck on the left, draw with left hand.

[Kazekirimaru]

Deck on top right corner, turned sideways to the left diagonally. Discard beneath that. Lands closest to me. Creatures in the center of mat. Enchantments & other non-creature permanents on my left.

[rcwraspy]

interesting article, Z, but what was the motivation behind posting it? Is there a design on there you like for a playmat? The logo with the gobo?

[Kazekirimaru]

I tapped counter-clockwise for the longest time, oddly enough.

[rcwraspy]

When I turn dudes sideways (as I'm prone to do), I turn them clockwise.

Hrm, I wonder if that's because you do so with your right hand and that's the natural alignment of your arm/hand.

I tap with my left hand (grip of cards in right, actions with left. feels more natural to me as a lefty, even though you're a lefty as well) and when I tap I do so counter-clockwise.

[Jack]

I put my land in the back row, against the edge of the table, dudes in front. I put my deck horizontally on the top right corner of the mat with the bottom edge of the cards aligned to the right edge of the mat. I cascade the graveyard underneath it and exile stuff above beside it.

I'm left right handed, so I hold cards in my left hand while I draw or tap stuff with my right.

When I turn dudes sideways (as I'm prone to do), I turn them clockwise.

[Jack]

Creatures in the center of mat. Enchantments & other non-creature permanents on my left.

[RedNihilist]

I'm right-handed, I usually keep my lands on the bottom-right and my library near my opponents' - right or left doesn't matter.
Enchantments and PWs go on the right, the graveyard just below the library.

Also, I usually keep my hands facedown on the table when I'm not playing them, it helps me remember to sequence plays correctly rather than trying to vomit my every action on the table all at once.

Oh, and I tap counter-clockwise.

[Link]

I play my cards wherever they land when I slam them down and keep my creatures tapped and attacking for the psychological effect

[Kazekirimaru]

Sometimes I'll play lands upside down to signify/remind myself I've played one for the turn.

[rcwraspy]

I play my cards wherever they land when I slam them down and keep my creatures tapped and attacking for the psychological effect

I hear ya man. I used to play around a 24" space in the center of the battlefield so the cards weren't in the way when I slapped my dick on the table, but that got me kicked out of a few too many LGSs.

[rcwraspy]

jealous bastards.

[photodyer]

I assume for playmats you're looking at Inked Playmats. The only hang there is that they have some pretty clear verbiage on their website about using copyrighted material for mats...they are not up for lawsuits. The "cheeky" Chandra isn't WotC art, but we might still have to get clearance from the artist if it's copyrighted.

[zemanjaski]

interesting article, Z, but what was the motivation behind posting it? Is there a design on there you like for a playmat? The logo with the gobo?

Sometimes I like to step back from only seeing things through a competitive mindset.

FWIW I don't use a playmat, though I have a few.

[Lightning_Dolt]

I'm right handed. I keep my grip in my right. Deck on the left, horizontally, exile above, gy below, lands across the bottom.

[Platypus]

Someone made it, it's copyrighted. You don't have to explicitly write a copyright sign/statement on the work. At least that's how it works around here. So yeah, get permissions before.

[DarthStabber]

Right handed, library on left, with graveyard left of that. Both aligned vertically with exile arranged horizontally below them.

2 rows in play: creature and non-creature. Matching things are stacked on top of each other, unless they have counters or something similar on them that differentiate them.

Things tap clockwise.

[zemanjaski]

I don't stack matching things, including lands; mostly because I think it helps my opponent. Thoughts?

[Jack]

I don't stack matching things, including lands; mostly because I think it helps my opponent. Thoughts?

I'd stack matching creatures back when I only played casually (8-9 years ago) for spacial reasons, because you tend to accumulate a shit ton of permanents in multiplayer casual games when everyone's afraid to attack when the person to their left has an army. Even then, you'd be looking at 2+ feet of board space per player.
Now, I don't stack permanents (except lands, since there's only so much space on my playmat, but including tokens, since I usually don't have too many creatures). I actually think that it makes it more confusing when a player stacks permanents. It's easier to visualize declaring blocks on 3 separated wolf tokens
than a cascaded stack of 3 wolves. Same goes for lands. It's harder to see what color mana each of their lands makes when they're overlapping (especially in the case of dual lands, since one of the land's colors may be covered up completely). Ghost Quarters or Mutavaults can be hidden at the bottom of stacks so that opponents tend to miss them.

[Helios]

I group my lands so that I don't do idiotic things. I do have a tendency to stack 2/x's, because it makes counting easier. It also causes opponents to forget abilities, though that isn't the intent.

[quote="rcwraspy » Today, 17:21"]Where do you guys position your battlefields? I'm a lefty so I have my deck on my left. When I started playing with Bonfire, I flipped the deck horizontal since I think that's the easiest for the miracle mechanic.

Then the g/y cascades below the deck, and the exile zone is above the deck.

Lands on bottom closest to me, creatures on top closest to opponent, and artifacts/enchantments/planeswalkers to the right somewhere between lands and creatures.

Just curious how diverse the playstyles are in case we want a mat that has divisions already printed on it.[/quote:
7wgx8ser]

I do exactly this, though I am right-handed. It came from my yugioh days when I had to be fully aware of cards in my graveyard, because in yugioh that's a huge resource. It also saves table space.

[Aodh]

Lands left, creature top mid, non-creature and enchanted permanents bottom mid, deck top right, graveyard mid right, exile on deck box, sideboard in deck box. All cards upside down, for the trolls.

[Helios]

Who did that art?

Found him: http://echo-cs.cghub.com/

[Valdarith]

If I were to get a playmat I'd love to have Chandra Ablaze. I found a store that sells them but I haven't been able to bring myself to spend money on Magic outside of cards since there's so many cards I want.

[Khaospawn]

I leave my cards in my box when I play. My sheer awesomeness is enough to win my games.

[Kazekirimaru]

Lands left, creature top mid, non-creature and enchanted permanents bottom mid, deck top right, graveyard mid right, exile on deck box, sideboard in deck box. All cards upside down, for the trolls.

Wonky.

[Yarpus]

And I just slam shit onto table. Let it be.
I have to admit that it often leads my opponents to underestimate me.
Though when I started playing Red, I had this bad habit of not counting opponent's life. I played mostly UW Control before so I never gave a fuck about that before. Actually, I was terrible at tapping creatures (let's start that most of creatures in my old control deck either were 1/3's, 0/4s or 6/6 vigiliance). I remember few games where I had around 25 power on the table and Venser to make creatures unblockable and for some reason I was still playing the game.
Maybe it was just blinking being that fun.

[LP, of the Fires]

I use same set up as Rcwraspy.

As for organizing shit once it's in play, I'll have my lands intermingled when I'm playing multiple colors. I've learned a couple tricks from my friends, the best being, "hide the blue". Where you stack your Orzhov lands over the blue on your dimir/azorious lands so it looks like you have a bunch of b/w mana while leaving ONE obvious blue source open so it looks like you have blue, but not enough blue to do things.

The other trick is tapping elvish mystic and leaving Green and White untapped to exaggerate the selesnya charm mana as a semi-bluff when you have it and want it to look like you're bluffing.

As far as holding cards in my hand, I shuffle cards like kibler so it's mostly irrelevant what hand they're in and anytime I'm thinking hard, they're usually facedown on the table.

When I'm playing against control, I usually don't bother untapping my creatures
since if there're two in play, it's untap, upkeep, draw, swing.

Another thing I've learned is to constantly ask my opponent what there life is to tighten the screws a bit so they always feel like they're in danger. I generally don't do this myself though as my crisp upbeat playstyle generally does all that for me.

[zemanjaski]

^ I would ask you to spread your lands to clarify the game state, as many times as I need to to get you to stop doing that. I don't have an issue with it of course, I just don't like give up points to unnecessary errors.

I tend to start every turn by asking my opponent:
- how many cards in hand (important info, also prevents cheating); and
- life total.

You can get a lot of info out of those two questions.

[windstrider]

Lands in back, creatures in front is how I've always played. Right side of the mat has my old school, metal Reaper life counter, the library underneath that, and the graveyard below. I don't like to stack matching creatures since I want the opponent to see all of them, but I do organize my lands into matching stacks if I have a lot of them.

[Helios]

I tend to start every turn by asking my opponent:
- how many cards in hand (important info, also prevents cheating); and
- life total.

This is good advice...I don't do it every turn, but I've pissed several people off with how frequently I ask for their hand size.

[Kazekirimaru]

This is good advice...I don't do it every turn, but I've pissed several people off with how frequently I ask for their hand size.

Tell them to go attempt singular procreation.