[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Link]

been on the receiving end of cheating, fucked my psyche for a few years, or probably permanently. Might be the reason I just like to smash things, simpler that way.

honesty is pretty underrated in the world atm, you can either be part of the problem and keep perpetuating the cycle of deception, or you can just be a better person. pays off in the long run, trust me.

I know we have the whole alpha male "bitches be hos get $$$ fuck them before you fuck them" mentaility in the clan, but I think if we're talkin real talk then cheating just isn't acceptable really. I don't care the circumstances either, revenge cheating is just as petty as it gets

[Alex]

I've been cheated on a few times. I wasn't a vagina about it. I was just like "Well, that sucks" and moved the fuck on. If someone is going to lie to you, you don't need to keep them around. I don't care if my current partner wants to fuck other people, but lying about it really shouldn't be a card on the table. Just be honest about that shit and we can work that shit out like adults.

Just because it's happened to me doesn't mean that I'm going to condemn other people who do it. It isn't any of my business, and other people probably shouldn't make it their business either. The world would probably be a lot friendlier if people just took this approach more often. Most of our day-to-day conflicts involve people trying to project how other people "should" act according to their standards, and
that really isn't realistic.

[Helios]

I know we have the whole alpha male "bitches be hos get $$$ fuck them before you fuck them" mentaility in the clan, but I think if we're talkin real talk then cheating just isn't acceptable really. I don't care the circumstances either, revenge cheating is just as petty as it gets

I like to think that the gentlemen of this clan aren't as misogynistic as appearances would suggest

[Helios]

Alex: When someone says "Hey, I'm in this situation, what should I do?", something tells me that's when they actually want to hear our "projected morals." Like, you could just say "Do whatever, doesn't matter, morality is bs." But that doesn't really, ya know, help.

[Yarpus]

Well, my personal experience on cheating was:
1. when I was in long-distance relationship I kissed my exgirlfriend once
2. in the same long-distance relationship, when I moved to her city (where I live now, mostly due to her) I got that newsflash: she was screwing around all the time
3. my whole relationship with the mentioned before (kissed) exgirlfriend was her cheating on her boyfriend with me. For few years.
4. love of my life actually told me she cheated on me, possibly to keep me away from herself. She wanted simple "fuck my brain sideways" relationship, I got caught into romantic momentum. I mentioned my reaction before.

I guess I was on nearly every end (receiving/giving) of adultery. I don't want to cheat on my girlfriend. Hey, she trusted me and supported me. I'd rather end the relationship but I am not sure if I'd be able to. 2pussy.

My whole issue is - I suddenly got put into two enviroments
full of cute girls. And for some reason they like me. Mostly because other men in those enviroments are atrocius. I'm not really good at refusing to nice grrlz. That's the whole problem.

Moral standpoint is just too subjective to be even taken into an account. It's all about the rules you put up with. I'd be fine in free-relationship where my gf can sleep with any guy as long as she keeps herself protected, they are people I don't know and she'll come back to me. At the beginning of relationship I was dating both her and other girl (they knew about each other). The other girl broke out first with her feelings, I didn't wanted to hear about feelings back at the time so I got rid of her.

[photodyer]

been on the receiving end of cheating, fucked my psyche for a few years, or probably permanently. Might be the reason I just like to smash things, simpler that way.

honesty is pretty underrated in the world atm, you can either be part of the problem and keep perpetuating the cycle of deception, or you can just be a better person. pays off in the long run, trust me.

I know we have the whole alpha male "bitches be hos get $$$ fuck them before you fuck them" mentaility in the clan, but I think if we're talkin real talk then cheating just isn't acceptable really. I don't care the circumstances either, revenge cheating is just as petty as it gets

This and Khaos's comments bring home my perspective. "Cheating" is just one
manifestation of the most destructive force in any human relationship--lying/dishonesty. The problem with lying is that once that door is open, it is damn hard to close. And when someone gets comfortable lying to another, the entire foundation of trust in a relationship crumbles. People can use all the justifications they want, but dishonesty in any relationship means that one person is devaluing and dehumanizing the other to serve their own mores. It's pretty simple stuff...

[Helios]

Flings with cute girls that may or may not turn into relationships < girl who will stand by you through thick and thin. Plus your girl is plenty cute herself.

Just imo.

[Khaospawn]

Another thing about cheating is that if you're gonna do it once, you'll probably do it again, whether it's in the current relationship or future relationships. I just don't want to be "that guy. " I'm the kind of person that when I decide to commit, I mean I fucking COMMIT. It could be to a person, a magic deck, or a simple mission, like I'm gonna drink all 3 bottles of mead TONIGHT. Once committed, I go down with the ship.

[Kazekirimaru]

Another thing about cheating is that if you're gonna do it once, you'll probably do it again, whether it's in the current relationship or future relationships. I just don't want to be "that guy. " I'm the kind of person that when I decide to commit, I mean I fucking COMMIT. It could be to a person, a magic deck, or a simple mission, like I'm gonna drink all 3 bottles of mead TONIGHT. Once committed, I go down with the ship.

You're a man among men, Khaos. May we all learn to be a bit more like you.

[redthirst]

Like a fucking Viking.

[InflatablePie]

InflatablePie! I just realized I remember you from MS!

Why don't you play Mafia with us downstairs? D:

I should. In a game on MS and I don't like to juggle more than two so it may be a while (there's a few games I'm interested in and I may get around to modding one soon).

[Kazekirimaru]

Cool

[NerdBoyWonder]

Another thing about cheating is that if you're gonna do it once, you'll probably do it again, whether it's in the current relationship or future relationships. I just don't want to be "that guy. " I'm the kind of person that when I decide to commit, I mean I fucking COMMIT. It could be to a person, a magic deck, or a simple mission, like I'm gonna drink all 3 bottles of mead TONIGHT. Once committed, I go down with the ship.

I would hope you are the one sinking the ship. Like a damn Viking would.

[LP, of the Fires]

Train got cancelled which REALLY blows. Apparently sister's boyfriend scared(though didn't exactly threaten) my grandmother. Hopefully when I do finally make it to town, nobodies killed each other

[Helios]

Khaos > other men.

[Yarpus]

Train got cancelled which REALLY blows. Apparently sister's boyfriend scared(though didn't exactly threaten) my grandmother. Hopefully when I do finally make it to town, nobodies killed each other

This fucking sucks.

Another thing about cheating is that if you're gonna do it once, you'll probably do it again, whether it's in the current relationship or future relationships. I just don't want to be "that guy. " I'm the kind of person that when I decide to commit, I mean I fucking COMMIT. It could be to a person, a magic deck, or a simple mission, like I'm gonna drink all 3 bottles of mead TONIGHT. Once committed, I go down with the ship.

I wish I could say I'm like that but I'm not.
Being coward is just no fun.

[Khaospawn]

You guys just made my fucking day.

[LP, of the Fires]

Something something, Khaos, something something mead, something something, Vikings, something something, dead nerds.

[NerdBoyWonder]

I've been cheated on a few times. I wasn't a vagina about it. I was just like "Well, that sucks" and moved the fuck on. If someone is going to lie to you, you don't need to keep them around. I don't care if my current partner wants to fuck other people, but lying about it really shouldn't be a card on the table. Just be honest about that shit and we can work that shit out like adults.

Just because it's happened to me doesn't mean that I'm going to condemn other people who do it. It isn't any of my business, and other people probably shouldn't make it their business either. The world would probably be a lot friendlier if people just took this
approach more often. Most of our day-to-day conflicts involve people trying to project how other people "should" act according to their standards, and that really isn't realistic.

While I agree with your approach to handling issues as I also tend to move foward or look for a solution when a problem arises I also am not as removed or as passive in regards other people's actions and violating moral codes/social norms. None of us are condemning the actions of those that do cheat but are stating why we don't agree with cheating and why you shouldn't.

My father cheated on my mother since my birth. Finally during High School through my encouragement and her own strength she finally moved on from him. I lost respect for my father and the actions he took but I still have a healthy relationship with him.

Same goes for my buddy who cheated on his GF who are all part of my same social circle. I told him he fucked up and needed to figure shit out because it wasn't only
unfair to his Gf but to himself and all of their mutual friends. His selfish act would cause the group to have to choose which one to invite to events and who we would have to exclude because they were angry at each other. That's not even a moral issue. He's a good guy who fucked up but repaired his relationship.

We aren't so far removed from other people's issues as one may like to think. Being that we are social in nature moral codes/social norms clash or are broken. While you, Alex, take a passive stance (it's not bad at all) we just aren't as removed from situations as much as we would all like to believe. Even at work a cowowrker could cheat and while any of us would just like to do our job coworker's BF/GF becomes scorned crazy BF/GF and while we stay out of it we may have to deal with said crazy bf/gf disrupting your own day due to an issue you have nothing to do with. It is one example but happens commonly around here.

Again I don't don't condemn. Im no judge but I also have
my own set of morals that I follow and hope others would respect. Also I realize we are not far removed from other people's issues as we would all like to be.

[Link]

Alexs stance is fine, but Helios is right that the context doesn't make sense here... judging =/= offering POV/advice

[Yarpus]

Well, I was the one asking for advice.
Thanks folks. You're all awesome.

[Kazekirimaru]

Best of luck.

[Yarpus]

There's no such a thing as luck. Just wrong and more wrong decisions you have to make.

[zemanjaski]

I like to think of Helios as little Zem, who will done grow to eclipse the old master.

I've spent the last 60 hours drunk or hungover...Monday will be hard.

[Valdarith]

I may stream some tonight. Wife isn't feeling well and I anticipate she may go to bed early giving me some time to fit in some THS sealed practice.

Ham, I tried to catch your stream on my phone but for some reason I could not access it from the Twitch app. I could see that you were streaming live but it would not allow me to bring it up. Strange.

[DroppinSuga]

I hate to break it to everyone, but Khaos isn't a Viking. Vikings don't have morals. If anyone here is a Viking, it's Alexander the Gay-Slut

[Khaospawn]

Alex is our Chaotic Evil member.


Solved it.




And, for the record, I am a Viking. Vikings were actually farmers and devoted family men until it came time to raid neighboring shores for more supplies and extra food for the winter. They'd round up all the men and ship out for a weeklong raid, which involved reckless drinking, arson, rape, and murder. Once they got what they came for, they went back to their wives and children and settled down....until the next raid.

This is totally me. Except I raid FNM's on a weekly basis. And I raid panties.

[DroppinSuga]

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=138779#p138779:18761ad2]Khaospawn » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:08 pm[/url:18761ad2]":18761ad2]Alex is out Chaotic Evil member.


Solved it.




And, for the record, I am a Viking. Vikings were actually farmers and devoted family men until it came time to raid neighboring shores for more supplies and extra food for the winter. They'd round up all the men and ship out for a weeklong raid, which involved reckless drinking, arson, rape, and murder. Once they got what they came for, they went back to their wives and children and settled down....until the next raid.

This is totally me. Except I raid FNM's on a weekly basis. And I raid [b:18761ad2]boxer shorts[/b:18761ad2].[/quote:18761ad2]

[Khaospawn]

Only yours, Suga.

[DroppinSuga]

Thank goodness.

[Khaospawn]

I enjoy the crustiness.

[Khaospawn]

I don't even know if that's a real word. It is now.

[magicdownunder]

Alex is our Chaotic Evil member.


Solved it.




And, for the record, I am a Viking. Vikings were actually farmers and devoted family men until it came time to raid neighboring shores for more supplies and extra food for the winter. They'd round up all the men and ship out for a weeklong raid, which involved reckless drinking, arson, rape, and murder. Once they got what they came for, they went back to their wives and children and settled down....until the next raid.

This is totally me. Except I raid FNM's on a weekly basis. And I raid panties.

Loved this post

[TubeHunter]

This day on Cockatrice

Tubehunter taps Firedrinker Satyr.
PointyFinger points from his Sylvan Caryatid to Tubehunter's Firedrinker Satyr.
Tubehunter taps Temple of Triumph.
Tubehunter taps Mountain.
Tubehunter points from his Mountain to his Firedrinker Satyr.
Tubehunter points from his Temple of Triumph to his Firedrinker Satyr.
You have been kicked out of the game.

[hamfactorial]

Tubehunter points from his dick to opponent's mouth. Flawless victory.

[DocLawless]

Everybody acts surprised when we actually use Firedrinker Satyr's ability...

[hamfactorial]

I may stream some tonight. Wife isn't feeling well and I anticipate she may go to bed early giving me some time to fit in some THS sealed practice.

Ham, I tried to catch your stream on my phone but for some reason I could not access it from the Twitch app. I could see that you were streaming live but it would not allow me to bring it up. Strange.

I'll come check your stream tonight!

I found out that the twitch mobile app will only stream the top 250ish channels, which is useless to me.

The DE was awful but the 2-mans were very entertaining. The Jund match at 3 hours, in particular, was very good.

[TubeHunter]

the two mans were very fun, Jund matchup was a sweet one

Favorite quote of the stream

"He leads with a boros guildgate?
"The hell?"
"and he plays norin the wary?"

[DroppinSuga]

Tube, I heard there was corruption yesterday and you never even bothered to report on it...

[zemanjaski]

I am eagerly awaiting the return of Red Scrumper.