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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:01 am

I saw it. I'm not real big on either trading post or Haunted P, so I have no real constructive criticism to add.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:04 am

I am going to test it this week with Isaac, will know whether or not I want to put real effort into it after that.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:07 am

I'm gonna be working on Orzhov agro. Ben Stark told me it's the best deck in the format and since I like the deck a lot, I didn't need much convincing to pick it up and play around with it.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Alex » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:17 am

I have been literally sleeping at my desk half the work day. Why couldn't I fucking sleep last night.
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Postby redthirst » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:31 am

LP, what's Orzhov Aggro looking like?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:41 am

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a ... c14/stand5

I was number 1 for a little while at least >_>
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Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:43 am

4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Boros Elite
3 Daring Skyjek
2 Spear of Heliod
4 Mutavault
6 Plains
4 Temple of Silence
4 Godless Shrine
4 Orzhov Charm
4 Swamp
4 Banisher Priest
4 Xathrid Necromancer
4 Tormented Hero
2 Thoughtseize
4 Precinct Captain
2 Imposing Sovereign
1 Orzhov Guildgate
SB: 2 Doom Blade
SB: 3 Sin Collector
SB: 2 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Lifebane Zombie
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 2 Renounce the Guilds
SB: 2 Dark Betrayal

Basic list. White weenie without brave the elements.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:55 am

Tormented Hero? On eight untapped black sources? Ugh.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:01 am

Hero is infinitely better then dryad militant by virtue of being a human and not being multicolored and/or green(tidebinder mage, soldier of the pantheon).
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Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:09 am

*Khaos is secretly glad that Z doesn't want his opinion on U/B, and somewhat feels like he dodged a bullet. *
Me too...let's stick to goblins and burning things shall we?
I'm actually playing Monday Night Modern using the B/g Infect list Alex posted in the Content Suppository thread, card for card. I just dismantled American Control 2-0 in about 10 minutes. Vat-Mommy + Pike is a wrecking ball.
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:12 am

It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:13 am

I also realize the wording there leaves a lot of room for interpretation. LOL oops.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:17 am

It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
It looks like an unplayable pile to me LP but I'll defer judgement to you since you seem to be drawn to white weenies.
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:18 am

Kaze, what the hell...
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:18 am

Well, considering I got approval from the Best Player in the World I'll side with his opinion and my own intuition :D

Also the mana is surprisingly fine.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:19 am

I have been literally sleeping at my desk half the work day. Why couldn't I fucking sleep last night.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:37 am

Kaze, what the hell...
That was a total accident.

I only meant to quote three times.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:38 am

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Postby TBuzzsaw » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:23 am

For the life of me I can't figure out where the best fit for Brimaz is going to be for now. I tried WW, Selesnya tokens and aggro, Naya, etc etc etc. Until the full spoilers comes out I think he's great in UW control so far.

I wish I can run a WW list, but all the bandwagoners are going to jump onto Mono Black and all those removals makes me a sad panda.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:47 am

W/x weenie.

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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:22 am

Updated to this:

[deck]Dimir Artifact Control[/deck]

Artifacts
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Haunted Platemail
2 Prophetic Prism
3 Ratchet Bomb
3 Trading Post

Instants
2 Bile Blight
2 Devour Flesh
3 Dissolve
1 Essence Scatter
3 Hero's Downfall
2 Opportunity
3 Syncopate
1 Ultimate Price

Sorceries
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize

Lands
4 Dimir Guildgate
4 Mutavault
4 Temple of Deceit
4 Watery Grave

7 Swamp
3 Island
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Postby Helios » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:05 am

Phenax was spoiled. 3UB, god text, 4/7, Creatures you control have "T: opponent mills X cards, where x is this creature's toughness." Might say "target player" instead of opp.

Whelming Wave. 2UU. Sorcery. Return all creatures except Krakens, Leviathans, Serpants, and Octopuses.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:08 am

It's target.
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Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:10 am

Phenax's mill ability requires you to have creatures in play:

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Massive synergy with Consuming Aberration, even if only for casual play.
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:13 am

Honestly getting tired of UB only being about mill.
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Postby Helios » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:14 am

Wrexial was a shining beacon of Cool UB Cards, and it's been all downhill from there.

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Postby TBuzzsaw » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:15 am

Hilariously enough, I can see Phenax working out really well in BU Devotion with Pack Rats, Desecration Demon, and Gary as an unnecessary win more.
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Postby Calamity » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:16 am

Why the fucking FUCK is UB always mill nowadays?

I'm actually upset about this
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:19 am

OMG let's jam Hover Barrier, Wall of Frost, and Murmuring Phantasm together with Phenax and call it a deck!

Seriously. What in the actual fuck is this?
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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:21 am

Green card is actually not horrible if a bit narrow...I love the concept that your 1-drops don't have to be useless draws in the late game, but the damned Heroic trigger requirement is one too many hoops to line up for anything but an enchantment deck.

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Postby DerWille » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:23 am

Green card is actually not horrible if a bit narrow...I love the concept that your 1-drops don't have to be useless draws in the late game, but the damned Heroic trigger requirement is one too many hoops to line up for anything but an enchantment deck.

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If heroic ever becomes a thing (I hope it does), I think it's going to be some combination of heroic, bestow, and hexproof. The bestow creatures feel like they're the ones to tie the deck together. In the worst case, you play them as a creature and beat face.

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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:25 am

Man, Phenax sucks.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:29 am

Updated to this:

[deck]Dimir Artifact Control[/deck]

Artifacts
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Haunted Plate Mail
2 Prophetic Prism
3 Ratchet Bomb
3 Trading Post

Instants
2 Bile Blight
2 Devour Flesh
3 Dissolve
1 Essence Scatter
3 Hero's Downfall
2 Opportunity
3 Syncopate
1 Ultimate Price

Sorceries
2 Read the Bones
4 Thoughtseize

Lands
4 Dimir Guildgate
4 Mutavault
4 Temple of Deceit
4 Watery Grave

7 Swamp
3 Island
[/deck]

Sideboard will require extensive testing obviously.
2-0 vs Esper Control
2-0 vs MBC
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Postby photodyer » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:34 am

Man, Phenax sucks.
Wizards is all but screaming "we printed this to create a reason to play Lazav", but...bleh.
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:41 am

Man, Phenax sucks.
Not the God that you deserve. But maaaaaaaybe the God that you need.
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Postby DarthStabber » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:53 am

Vanguard of Brimaz isn't bad. A bigger akroan crusader with vigilance on himself and the tokens.

Phenax is a better hair-strung koto and that's not saying much given most of you probably had to check that one to see what I was talking about.

The Hero of leina tower is amusing. You've never seen something giant growthed that hard. She's not likely to replace experiment one anytime soon.

Whelming wave is hilarious. Going in my commander deck.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:54 am

2-0 vs Dega

Suck it Kamahl.
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Postby Self Medicated » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:05 am

2-0 vs Dega

Suck it Kamahl.
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Postby zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:06 am

His hand at the end of Game 1 was six sorcery speed removals.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:09 am

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I'm thoroughly upset they used "octopuses" instead of "octopi".

Pretty good, though. Basically Sorcery Evacuation for one less.
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