[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT
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God, the brokeness.
I'm thinking about White Weenie tho. It has few options. There's token-based Weenie with cards like Precinct, Eidolon of Countless Battles, Brimaz, Heliod and his Spear. And that lifegain enchantment that can make an anthem. And then there's heroic-based Weenie with Fabled Hero, Hero of Ioras, Fiendslayer Paladin. Let's take a look at example of list:
Token Weenie
[deck]Creatures (24):
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Dryad Militiant
4 Precinct Captain
4 Imposing Sovereign / Spirit of Labirynth (meta-dependant between main/SB)
3 Eidolon of Countless Battles
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Heliod, God of the Sun
Other Spells (14):
4 Brave the Elements
4 Celestial Flare
4 Path of Bravery
2 Spear of Heliod
Lands (22):
2 Mutavault
20 Plains[/deck]
I'm thinking about White Weenie tho. It has few options. There's token-based Weenie with cards like Precinct, Eidolon of Countless Battles, Brimaz, Heliod and his Spear. And that lifegain enchantment that can make an anthem. And then there's heroic-based Weenie with Fabled Hero, Hero of Ioras, Fiendslayer Paladin. Let's take a look at example of list:
Token Weenie
[deck]Creatures (24):
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Dryad Militiant
4 Precinct Captain
4 Imposing Sovereign / Spirit of Labirynth (meta-dependant between main/SB)
3 Eidolon of Countless Battles
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Heliod, God of the Sun
Other Spells (14):
4 Brave the Elements
4 Celestial Flare
4 Path of Bravery
2 Spear of Heliod
Lands (22):
2 Mutavault
20 Plains[/deck]
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Don't bother building decks or entertaining strategies that just fold to black removal because there's going to be plenty of it.
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I think the printing of Revoke Existence means there will be White in whatever I play once BNG hits.
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Thank you for stating exactly what's been on my mind for a few days.Don't bother building decks or entertaining strategies that just fold to black removal because there's going to be plenty of it.
I was actually telling Z this morning on Facebook that I'm pretty much resigning myself to playing R/w Devotion for the next few months simply because it seems like the only thing that can be good enough against Black and still pack a punch.
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I have been waiting so long for a standard season like this.Don't bother building decks or entertaining strategies that just fold to black removal because there's going to be plenty of it.
Still no Hymn... but it's getting close to what I want out of a set.
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RW devotion seems horrible. Fanatic wont be hitting for very big. SBD dies to HDF. Maybe you could explain why RW Devo will beThank you for stating exactly what's been on my mind for a few days.Don't bother building decks or entertaining strategies that just fold to black removal because there's going to be plenty of it.
I was actually telling Z this morning on Facebook that I'm pretty much resigning myself to playing R/w Devotion for the next few months simply because it seems like the only thing that can be good enough against Black and still pack a punch.
good?
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Well, to be honest. I've tought a lot about that. I remember myself panicking when they printed variety of cards that were supposed to be an ultimate hoser of err'ything. GOD SYLVAN CARYATID YOU DIRTY MOTHERFUCKER. But then we just played games, and it was k.
This deck isn't hosed that hard with Blight/Drown. Look, I'd feel hosed if I'd play token-generating instants. Small aggro part of this deck could be screwed if your plan is to overextend the shit out of your hand. I'm not afraid of lategame Blights/Drowns with multiple anthems that actually do something and filthy token generators like Brimaz or Heliod. Especially Heliod. God I love him so much.
Red is bad now as it doesn't have an actual support plan.
White is cooler as those cards can take a game on their own, especially paired with Anthem.
Let's take an example.
T1 Dryad Militiant T2 Precinct Captain T3 Path of Bravery, swing. I get Drowned in my Sorrow.
It's k. I've dealt 8 damage, regained 2 life and still have Path of Bravery ready for... for example Brimaz.
Play smart, fuck bitches I guess.
This deck isn't hosed that hard with Blight/Drown. Look, I'd feel hosed if I'd play token-generating instants. Small aggro part of this deck could be screwed if your plan is to overextend the shit out of your hand. I'm not afraid of lategame Blights/Drowns with multiple anthems that actually do something and filthy token generators like Brimaz or Heliod. Especially Heliod. God I love him so much.
Red is bad now as it doesn't have an actual support plan.
White is cooler as those cards can take a game on their own, especially paired with Anthem.
Let's take an example.
T1 Dryad Militiant T2 Precinct Captain T3 Path of Bravery, swing. I get Drowned in my Sorrow.
It's k. I've dealt 8 damage, regained 2 life and still have Path of Bravery ready for... for example Brimaz.
Play smart, fuck bitches I guess.
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I happen to think RB will be very good. Just have to have the right build. I think I'm going in the right direction with mine.
If not RB, Boros Burn is good.
If not RB, Boros Burn is good.
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Purp, if I have to explain why, that means you've never played with it. Or against it.RW devotion seems horrible. Fanatic wont be hitting for very big. SBD dies to HDF. Maybe you could explain why RW Devo will be good?Thank you for stating exactly what's been on my mind for a few days.Don't bother building decks or entertaining strategies that just fold to black removal because there's going to be plenty of it.
I was actually telling Z this morning on Facebook that I'm pretty much resigning myself to playing R/w Devotion for the next few months simply because it seems like the only thing that can be good enough against Black and still pack a
punch.
In a pinch, Khaos' beard can help turn this around.
I rarely skip a Khaospawn wall of text because I know there is always piss at the end of the rainbow.
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The argument "dies to removal" seems valid.Trying to imply that there is literally going to a be an answer every turn from MBC. Also, I expect esper to adopt these cards as wellBrilliant, you are.SBD dies to HDF.
In a pinch, Khaos' beard can help turn this around.
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4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Kiora, the Crashing Wave
4 Sphinx's Revelation
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Someone finish building this deck. Not sure how many lands to play. 27 seems right with 4 sphinx's and cards that like for me to see lots of lands.
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
4 Kiora, the Crashing Wave
4 Sphinx's Revelation
1 Elixir of Immortality
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Someone finish building this deck. Not sure how many lands to play. 27 seems right with 4 sphinx's and cards that like for me to see lots of lands.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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Beatdown is hard, though.
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If I believed all the Chicken Littles of the world crying about the sky falling because one color got a few more removal spells, I would've quit playing Magic a long time ago.I have played with it, and against it. How do a deck that wins by building a board state on turns 2-4 beat a deck running 3 Bliles main and 2-4 Drown in Sorrows SB? There is too much danger to play multiple ash zealots or BTE. I don't imagine Fanatic slamming in for 6+ dmg anymore.
But since I have enough sense to remember how to properly play with a Red deck, I'm not worried in the slightest way.
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If you play Thea Steels version(top 8'd the same invitational as erik) Mogis isn't even apart of the plan vs. mono-black.
If you play Thea Steels version(top 8'd the same invitational as erik) Mogis isn't even apart of the plan vs. mono-black.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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Thea Steel should be out fighting crime.
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With all the new black removal, is it time for this?
Solves the Reckoner/Bile Blight issue, but regrettably not the "red only deserves x/1's" issue. Probably still narrow, but this + Charm seem worth considering in light of the black onslaught that is doubtless on the horizon.
Or just say the hell with it and come over to the dark side...the heck with cookies, I'm serving BBQ!
Solves the Reckoner/Bile Blight issue, but regrettably not the "red only deserves x/1's" issue. Probably still narrow, but this + Charm seem worth considering in light of the black onslaught that is doubtless on the horizon.
Or just say the hell with it and come over to the dark side...the heck with cookies, I'm serving BBQ!
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Don't even need Thoughtseize in red-heavy black. Just play bigger, faster threats. And Dreadbore. Lots and lots of Dreadbore.
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[deck]Creatures (24):
4 Tormented Hero
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Spike Jester
4 Pain Seer
4 Lifebane Zombie
4 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch
Other Spells (14):
2 Thoughtseize
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet
4 Dreadbore
Lands (22):
4 Blood Crypt
4 Temple of Carnage
4 Mountain
2 Mutavault
8 Swamp
Sideboard (15):
15 Island[/deck]
4 Tormented Hero
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Spike Jester
4 Pain Seer
4 Lifebane Zombie
4 Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch
Other Spells (14):
2 Thoughtseize
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet
4 Dreadbore
Lands (22):
4 Blood Crypt
4 Temple of Carnage
4 Mountain
2 Mutavault
8 Swamp
Sideboard (15):
15 Island[/deck]
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