Gone Postal Mafia - Game Over - Scum Win

[Stardust]

Seeking a replacement for Mogadishu Jones.

[RedNihilist]

Vote Wraith

[hamfactorial]

Lots of scummy ways that my vig could have failed last night. I'd like to hear from Jack and Wraith about what they did last night, so we can figure out whether that was scum's kill (flavor suggests so) or mine and whose kill was blocked.

[hamfactorial]

Red, if you watched the mail last night, please hold your results until we hear from them.

[Dechs Kaison]

Ham, wasn't Jack supposed to make you untargetable?

[hamfactorial]

That was my suggested plan of attack, but I want to find out what the fuck happened.

[RedNihilist]

I know something.
But I'm not saying anything for now.
Let's hang Wraith, shall we?

[hamfactorial]

Vote Wraith

@Mod: should it be 5 to lynch? It was 6 yesterday, 7 on day 1.

[Stardust]

Vote Wraith

@Mod: should it be 5 to lynch? It was 6 yesterday, 7 on day 1.

Yeah, I'm bad at math.

With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

[Mcdonalds]

vote wraith

[Cursed_Pride]

-Are we allergic to discussion?

Let's get everyone to check in before we start lynching Wraith.

[Stardust]

Official Votecount!

Wraith223 (3): RedNihilist, hamfactorial, Lord_Mcdonalds

Not voting: Cursed_Pride, Dechs Kaison, Wraith223, Jack, Mogadishu Jones

With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

[hamfactorial]

I have my eye on the vote count, wasn't going to let him get to L-1 without hearing from Jack.

[hamfactorial]

To prevent shenanigans, Unvote. I'll vote him again once we've heard enough.

[Jack]

What happened with your plan, hammy?

[Jack]

I protected him.

[hamfactorial]

I sent my letter bomb but nobody blew up. What happened to making me untargetable?

[Jack]

*ham

[Jack]

CP should post the mail I sent him.

[Jack]

Mod confirmed that my night action worked, so scum probably protected your target.

[hamfactorial]

Or we have a bulletproof mafia boss. Are those typically included in a game with a town vig?

[RedNihilist]

THINGS ARE INTERESTING.

Let's hear from C_P.

Still, Wraith is going down.

[Jack]

Well, the game looks to be very high power. Who'd you try to letterbomb?

[hamfactorial]

I'm going to hold onto that for a bit, since it will be easier for scum to bullshit us if they know who I targeted.

If there's a PR that can verify the recipient or the content of my message, I'd like to give them a chance to chime in because information is good.

etc

[RedNihilist]

Interesting things are interesting.

[RedNihilist]

Come on C_P, come out!

[Mcdonalds]

Hearing from the jones/cm spot would be nice (although that may not happen)

Having admitted your letter bomb failed, if scum did have a way to stop it, they already know

Just sayin

[Mcdonalds]

Come on C_P, come out!

Outting is forbidden, now is mafia time

[Cursed_Pride]

CP should post the mail I sent him.

-I received no mail.

[hamfactorial]

Hearing from the jones/cm spot would be nice (although that may not happen)

Having admitted your letter bomb failed, if scum did have a way to stop it, they already know

Just sayin

Yes, if there's a passive bulletproof ability then we'll have to string him up the old fashioned way.

If they redirected it by targeting my target, it could have been sent to Pie for overkill, but I don't know why they would do that and not just bomb another townie.

Unless they're trying to make Jack/Wraith look really bad.

etc part deux

[RedNihilist]

CP should post the mail I sent him.

-I received no mail.

That's funny.

[hamfactorial]

CP should post the mail I sent him.

-I received no mail.

Does Wraith's ability prevent mail from being sent to a player? Not sure if mail uses the same targeting rules as night actions.

[RedNihilist]

We should ask that to Wraith before hanging him, I suggest.

[Dechs Kaison]

I'm going to try to lay out a case here. Guys, please correct me on any points I make if I'm making Mafia assumptions I shouldn't be.

Ham, claimed that you could and would bomb someone. You are claiming that you sent said bomb. Jack is claiming he protected you. Only one person died tonight. Those are all facts that aren't arguable. It's also certain that Scum would have tried to night kill someone, since they have no benefit to skipping that action. There are only a few conclusions we can draw from these facts.

1. We have a Bulletproof Scum Boss.
2. Jack lied and Ham got Blocked.
3. Ham lied about being a vig.
4. Ham bombed the same person that Scum night killed.
5. We have a doctor who saved Ham or Scum's target.

I don't see any other possibilities. I ranked them in order of most to least likely. Ham, knowing your target would help me narrow down further. Without that, I want to extrapolate some plans.

nIf 1, then you tell us who you targeted and we lynch him. Easy peasy, and we confirm it when we lynch.

If 2 or 3, then we lynch Jack or Ham. Ham, did you get confirmation from Mod if your bomb went through? Jack is claiming that his night action was successful, so you should have some kind of confirmation, too. If you didn't, then it has to be Jack's just lying again. We can lynch him and confirm whether he even had a cloaking role. If he does flip with a cloak role, though, then you start to look extremely suspect again.

If it's 4, then Ham bombed one of the most obvious towny towns and he needs to be lynched.

I can't believe that it's five easily. We have a lot of claims on the table and none of them are doctor, so if I tell you guys I believe five, then I may as well claim to be the doctor and get myself night killed tonight. No thank you.

[RedNihilist]

This makes no sense.
Let's go back to who targeted who.

[RedNihilist]

1) ham did you target Pie? [Y/N]
2) Jack did you target ham? [Y/N]

[hamfactorial]

Red:

No, I targeted someone else.

[Dechs Kaison]

Hearing from the jones/cm spot would be nice (although that may not happen)

Having admitted your letter bomb failed, if scum did have a way to stop it, they already know

Just sayin

If they redirected it by targeting my target, it could have been sent to Pie for overkill, but I don't know why they would do that and not just bomb another townie.

I don't believe this could have happened. Ham, you're a math guy. What are the odds that you picked the same bomb target you did when no one knew who you were going to pick? The better point is that they would never
overkill the same target, knowing that target abilities could be blocked. It's better odds for Scum to make an attempt to kill two targets.

I'm really starting to think we have to assume your bomb did go through, it just didn't kill the target. Whoever it is was protected, most likely protected by scum.

Tell us your target, and I'll be happy to lynch him.

[Dechs Kaison]

1) ham did you target Pie? [Y/N]
2) Jack did you target ham? [Y/N]

Jack already said he protected Ham and that his action was confirmed.

[hamfactorial]

Dechs:

I didn't get a confirmation that my action was successful, but I got a confirmation that Stardust received it. I wrote a short message to my target, in the same format as the sample in the OP, and stated that I wished to use my letter bomb ability with that message.