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Postby Pedros » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:53 pm

LP - our Devo red specialist. Do you think devo red gains enought to be tier 1?
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Postby Tyrael » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:55 pm

Until Khans comes out it should be a strong contender
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Postby Pedros » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:55 pm

It's losing too much with RTR and I have precisely zero faith that Wizard's will continue to support devotion.
I was thinking about M15 Standard, sorry for not claryfing.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:14 pm

Not your fault, Maverick is always thinking about the next fall block, even in fall
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Postby DerWille » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:29 pm

Satyr Hedonist has been in Standard for awhile now but seen no play. This is a bit different since it grants haste, but a lot of 5s we'd be ramping into have haste anyway. Let's not get too excited.

The mana can be used for noncreature spells too just like Satyr Hedonist, except you don't need a green splash to play this new card.
I think the haste might be what pushes it over the top in some sort of G/R deck. Fantasyland of turn 3 Kalonian Hydra, swing for 8, and then 16 on turn 4 sounds pretty good. There might be some sort of shenanigans with it because it doesn't require R to get the effect. Like bring it in off a BTE or Caryatid or something.

I don't feel like this one pigeon holes you into a specific archetype as much as Hedonist
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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:36 pm

I don't feel like this one pigeon holes you into a specific archetype as much as Hedonist does.
It doesn't, which is why it could see play even when Hedonist did not.
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Postby Midnight_v » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:03 pm

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Postby BlakLanner » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:29 pm

Those of us who plan on attending tournaments between M15 and rotation?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:32 pm

I'm not buying any Khans of Tarkir because it rotates when the fall 2016 block becomes legal
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Postby Midnight_v » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:43 pm

That card... it looks cool but, to be honest Its not amazing. I hat to be in the sayer of nay camp, but yeah.
I remember I was getting some rabid responses like when I said: "Exava: She's not a thing" and "That phoenix is a worse version of vexing devil: It will see no play"

Just to analyze this servant card correctly, I think a couple things

1. It doesn't really have a deck "right now" Its not a red devotion card, and its not a RDW's card really (I mean you could force it but that doesn't make it a good choice), Jund which routinely accelerates into things has its acceleration plan locked down with its hexproof walls and whatnot. Its one of those things that doesn't inherently make anything better.

2. Mentioned before, but bearing reiteration, Red has nothing that it particularly wants to accelerate into. Mogis fanatic, is a card that most people are holding back on as a trump (
right, wrong, or most often circumstantially. Stormbreath Dragon is a similar cast, if playing some kind of sledgehammer-y thing you're pressuring a wrath out and playing it after; not playing it pre-wrath for 4 damage and the potential of a early removal spell. The Soul of Shittty-forgtten-plane, like most red titans in many ways he has the weakest effect of the cycle but further doesn't lend itself to being used with generator servant because a deck that wants to power out huge threats likely wants to do it consistently.

I'm won't go so far as to say its unplayable and bad, but that it requires a bit more on its own to be excited about. Come to think of it that goes for the titan as well... Hmm...

Hey LP, can you fit that titan into your devotion deck?

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I'm not buying any Khans of Tarkir because it rotates when the fall 2016 block becomes legal
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Midnight's sarcasm detector is apparently broken.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:30 pm

your mother is a shark chasm
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:46 pm

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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:15 pm

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:23 pm

Word on the street is fetches confirmed.

Red ramp two drop is decent. Comparisons to hedonist are laughable as any creates get haste and the card is mono colored.

Not sure about it in devotion red but the soul gets a definite probably. Another mana sink that's strong on its own is awesome and it attacks into desecration demon for value.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:24 pm

Hearing this from your source or general online banter? Zen or Onslaught?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:28 pm

who doesn't want to sacrifice devotion to get out a fanatic? that's just value
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:32 pm

Personal source.

Don't know which fetches.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:51 pm

Unfortunately, the generator doesn't have any particularly powerful mythos interactions put its probably great in some other shell, possibly a big red deck that gets to pay mutavaults instead.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Purp » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:27 pm

Confirmed m15 or Khan?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:00 pm

I was trolled. Reprint won't be for about a year.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:01 pm

they'd play interestingly with scry, unfortunately all the scrying is being done off land drops
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:03 pm

I was trolled. Reprint won't be for about a year.
you've been a great help
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:10 am

I was trolled. Reprint won't be for about a year.
Yeah, I wasn't gonna call you out on it, but they did confirm at PAX the fetches would be reprinted within a year, year and half or so. That would place it at either M16 (hehe like the gun...) or the next Fall set.

So let's all do what Maverick is doing and just look forward to the next next rotation ..
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:49 am

This was awesome (except for the finish):
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:00 am

Act on Impulse is one cool Magic card. The art and flavor is amazing.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:17 am

Blue Moon is the grossly underpowered, fringe control deck I've been searching for.
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:33 am

I would describe the deck exactly the same way you did. :)
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:48 am

1 card combo though.
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:01 am

I was chatting with the ORC today, App. on the 9th (after DT, which is the 8th for most of you folk) the BETA will get a huge update so before we sharpen our pitchforks for the 16th we should wait and see how it improves
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:27 am

I'm waiting for the day they announce Return to Zendikar so I can see all the fanboys fanturd out of their minds.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:04 am

Reprint JtMS in standard!
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Postby PirateKingAtomsk » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:00 pm

j mind sculptor in standard with a limit of 1 in a deck wouldn't suck
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Postby Purp » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:31 pm

Have there ever been "limits" in constructed before?
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