[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Valdarith]

Thanks for the morning laughs you two.

[Valdarith]

Full spoiler up.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/ktk-cig-en

[Tyrael]

Do you guys think Outlast is a viable mechanic outside of limited? It seems really cool but yea...

[windstrider]

Do you guys think Outlast is a viable mechanic outside of limited? It seems really cool but yea...

Initial thought is that it's slow but potentially very obnoxious if it gets rolling.

I'm kinda underwhelmed by the rest of the cards. Red seems particularly uninspired.

[Tyrael]

Do you guys think Outlast is a viable mechanic outside of limited? It seems really cool but yea...

Initial thought is that it's slow but potentially very obnoxious if it gets rolling.

I'm kinda underwhelmed by the rest of the cards. Red seems particularly uninspired.

Yes, this feels exactly like a repeat of theros except for the fact that devotion is now replaced by 'clan mechanic x'

they seem to have been trying to shoehorn every clan into a certain archetype and most of the cards seem to reflect that

[Lightning_Dolt]

and we all know zem left because FOS didn't worship him the way he wanted to be worshipped, shame on you all for not worshipping B-tier content on a B-tier site (CFB).

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin' trollin'

[Valdarith]

The three mana spell that makes three goblins is neat. I also like the two mana 2/2 with haste that has to attack. Trumpet Blast is an interesting reprint too.

[Khaospawn]

I like how Spam is an equal opportunity troller

[Khaospawn]

Excuse me, troll artist.

[Khaospawn]

[rcwraspy]

For manabase, decide how many of each color you want, start with one, then go to the next, then go to the next. Ex. say you're playing white based anafezna agro with soldier of the pantheon. You decide you want 17 white sources, 14 black, 12 green. You should choose your 17 white, prefereably 14 untapped sources, look at how many of these double as black sources, then add up to 14 black and so on. When the numbers don't gel, you can do a number of things from making your mana more painful/slow with confluences and tri-lands, "cheating' on colors where you're mana's greedy and more high variance(the Wescoe Gambit), or simply retool your deck to get the ratio's in line.

This is one of the clearest mana-base-building pieces of advice I'
ve seen. Thanks.

[RedNihilist]

Wescoe Gambit? :0

[LP, of the Fires]

LOOK AT ANY OF HIS DECKS! They always lean on the greedy side.

[LP, of the Fires]

Turn 1 Akroan Crusader. Turn 2 monastery swiftspear, titan's strength crusader, attack for 7. Turn 3, play monastery, double titan's strength, attack for 20.

Probably best nutdraw in standard.

[rcwraspy]

Coordinated Assault playable in that type of shell?

[LP, of the Fires]

4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Akroan Crusader
3 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firedrinker Satyr
3 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Hammerhand
4 Titan's Strength
4 Dragon Mantle
4 Stoke the Flames
2 Lightning Strike
1 Hall of Triumph
1 Coordinated Assault
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
18 Mountain

[Khaospawn]

LOOK AT ANY OF HIS DECKS! They always lean on the greedy side.

I absolutely fell in love with his Tricked Out WW deck (and played it extensively) during Alara/Zen block.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMxKeD1dks

[Alex]

I don't know if any of you guys cube draft at all, but if you do, check out my videos. :O

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[Khaospawn]

I want my Khans cards now so I can play with my Red commons!

[deck]
Creatures 28
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Frenzied Goblin
4 Borderland Marauder
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Valley Dasher
4 Goblin Rabblemaster

Spells 13
1 Hall of Triumph
3 Titan's Strength
4 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames

Greedy Manabase
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
1 Mountain
2 Searing Blood
2 Magma Spray
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
2 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Act of Treason
2 Trumpet Blast
[/deck]

[NerdBoyWonder]

I have no clue what the hell I am going to play this Standard season. It will involve Rabblemaster though.

[rcwraspy]

I have no clue what the hell I am going to play this Standard season. It will involve Rabblemaster though.

Yeah same. I just pre-ordered some Mardu cards, though. I know I want to play Rabblemaster and Stormbreath Dragon. The rest is up in the air, but I wouldn't mind having the Butcher card in my Rabblemaster deck.

[Platypus]

I've ordered a playset of Butcher or the Horde and Bloodsoaked Champion, and some of the uncommons/commons. I'm looking for something red/black based, with a splash of white, mostly because I don't want to go towards Brimaz (for budget reasons). So something warrior-tribal.

[LP, of the Fires]

I want my Khans cards now so I can play with my Red commons!

[deck]
Creatures 28
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Frenzied Goblin
4 Borderland Marauder
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Valley Dasher
4 Goblin Rabblemaster

Spells 13
1 Hall of Triumph
3 Titan's Strength
4 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames

Greedy Manabase
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
1 Mountain
2 Searing Blood
2 Magma Spray
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
2 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Act of Treason
2 Trumpet Blast
[/deck]

You had me at greedy manabase

[Khaospawn]

Am I the only one excited for Valley Dasher? He's definitely no Ashley, but c'mon! He's a 2/2 haste for [mana]1R[/mana]!

[Self Medicated]

I want my Khans cards now so I can play with my Red commons!

[deck]
Creatures 28
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Frenzied Goblin
4 Borderland Marauder
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Valley Dasher
4 Goblin Rabblemaster

Spells 13
1 Hall of Triumph
3 Titan's Strength
4 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames

Greedy Manabase
20 Mountain

Sideboard 15
1 Mountain
2 Searing Blood
2 Magma Spray
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
2 Hammer of Purphoros
2 Act of Treason
2 Trumpet Blast
[/deck]

No Hordling Outburst?

Am I the only one
excited for Valley Dasher? He's definitely no Ashley, but c'mon! He's a 2/2 haste for [mana]1R[/mana]!

I'm all for it as it goes along with my game plan.

[Valdarith]

Coordinated Assault playable in that type of shell?

I happen to think that it is.

[NerdBoyWonder]

I have no clue what the hell I am going to play this Standard season. It will involve Rabblemaster though.

Yeah same. I just pre-ordered some Mardu cards, though. I know I want to play Rabblemaster and Stormbreath Dragon. The rest is up in the air, but I wouldn't mind having the Butcher card in my Rabblemaster deck.

Speaking my language. I was thinking some Mardu Midrange deck that was Heavy Red/BLack with a white splash in order to play butcher and Elspeth. Don't know which 1 or 2 drops I'd run in this shell but my curve would be Rabblemaster > Butcher >
Sarkhan or Stormbreath > Elspeth.

[Valdarith]

Am I the only one excited for Valley Dasher? He's definitely no Ashley, but c'mon! He's a 2/2 haste for [mana]1R[/mana]!

I think it's very playable.

[Platypus]

Am I the only one excited for Valley Dasher? He's definitely no Ashley, but c'mon! He's a 2/2 haste for [mana]1R[/mana]!

It's a good common, I will invest in a playset.

[Khaospawn]

@SM - I don't think 3 mana for 3 1/1's is enough bang for my buck.

[Alex]

@SM - I don't think 3 mana for 3 1/1's is enough bang for my buck.

It's fine if you have a Foundry Street Denizen shell. Otherwise it's bad.

[Khaospawn]

@SM - I don't think 3 mana for 3 1/1's is enough bang for my buck.

It's fine if you have a Foundry Street Denizen shell. Otherwise it's bad.

Yeah, but even then, it's like spending 3 mana to deal +3 damage if you have 1 Denizen out. 3 mana for +6 damage is cool, but it requires you to have 2 Denizens out for that. That just seems more like 'living the dream.'

[Self Medicated]

@SM - I don't think 3 mana for 3 1/1's is enough bang for my buck.

I also noticed no Monastery Swiftspear. I'm assuming that's because we want to focus on creatures rather than non-creature spells?

[Valdarith]

[deck]Mono Red Heroes[/deck]

[Khaospawn]

@SM - I don't think 3 mana for 3 1/1's is enough bang for my buck.

I also noticed no Monastery Swiftspear.

Yeah, I didn't think 13 instants would be enough to consistently and reliable buff the dude. I think if I dropped some of the other creatures and added more spells like Hammerhand, he'd be a good fit. I really just want a consistent deck than can spread out and take moderate chunks out of the life total. Like a mean pack of velociraptors.

[Khaospawn]

I really want to pair up Dragon Mantle and Dragon-Style Twins and relive the old Stonewright and Hound duo.

[LP, of the Fires]

I honestly think Todd Anderson made the best red deck that I've seen so far.

[Alex]

I honestly think Todd Anderson made the best red deck that I've seen so far.

Get out.

[Self Medicated]

List?

[Khaospawn]

I honestly think Todd Anderson made the best red deck that I've seen so far.

Get out.

This I gotta see lol