[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:32 pm

Testing on trice.

Ew.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:33 pm

No events here until Friday. Can't afford modo and paper.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:34 pm

You didn't curve out in a small pool of test matches? DECK MUST BE BROKEN RUN AWAY

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:38 pm

You didn't curve out in a small pool of test matches? DECK MUST BE BROKEN RUN AWAY

SET IT ON FIRE AND TOSS IT IN THE FUCKING DUMPSTER!!!!

:scrump:

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:39 pm

6 matches before I hung it up, but yeah, just doesn't feel good to me. Laugh all you want, seat of the pants feel influences my decisions.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:40 pm

If it performed that badly in a six round paper event, I would hang it up and move on too.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:51 pm

That's basically one bad run at an FNM, why give up so easily? If the mana base is bad from a color perspective, certainly re-do it, but don't give up an entire archetype because variance got you once.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:53 pm

Nurture that shit, nigga.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:03 pm

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:04 pm

No events here until Friday. Can't afford modo and paper.

I'm surprised MTGCanada doesn't give you access to MTGO cards so you can stream stuff.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:11 pm

They aren't that big. They said they would put videos of us streaming up, but they're only paying the standard rate they pay for articles. I just don't have the cash to buy my decks twice right now. Still trying to pay off my debts from when I was in Japan / pay for an upgrade course to help my career along.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:11 pm

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:12 pm

The Mardu list I was playing now seems kind of clunky too, so I have no idea what to do. I guess this is what I get for only doing modern / cube / EDH for a month.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:19 pm

play u/w heroic. the deck is fun.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:21 pm

I'm trying three Brimaz and loving it.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:39 pm

RW deck seems much better with Magma Jet.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:39 pm

I'm trying three Brimaz and loving it.

Always feels like the worst card in the deck. Ashcloud on the other hand, does a lot of work.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:40 pm

Do we have a thread for this?

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:10 pm

I'm trying three Brimaz and loving it.
Always feels like the worst card in the deck. Ashcloud on the other hand, does a lot of work.

Funny, I felt exactly the opposite. Brimaz felt like the best card in my deck, and Ashcloud the worst, but some of this is skewed by what I've tested against so far. The big thing about Brimaz is that it can play offense and defense very well. It's also the tits with Chandra.

midnight put up a rw aggro thread in Developing.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:41 pm

Which matchups are you finding Brimaz good in?

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:08 am

I think Magma Jet was the missing key, seems much more stable / smooth now.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:13 am

Funny, playing Magma Jet at MDU's insistence was the only thing that made the deck playable last year too...

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:14 am

Where is MDU? I miss that guy.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:15 am

Any idea how much RW aggro would run me on Modo?

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:39 am

Any idea how much RW aggro would run me on Modo?

It's more expensive than you think, unfortunately. It's almost a 100 tix just for Rabblemasters and Stoke, last time I checked.

And yes, Magma Jet is crucial to the deck. I disagree with a lot of lists that I've seen that want to run less than 3.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:44 am

OK, actually really liking this:

[deck]Lands (24)
11 Mountain
4 Plains
1 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Temple of Triumph
4 Battlefield Forge

Creatures (12)
4 Seeker of the Way
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Ashcould Phoenix
2 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells (24)
4 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Magma Jet
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker

Sideboard (15)
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
1 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Hushwing Gryff
2 Glare of Heresy
4 Erase
2 Scouring Sands
1 Banishing Light[/deck]

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:46 am

The great thing about the deck (for now) is that it is really flexible in both the main and sideboard. You can tailor it to fit in just about any meta.

I like your list, btw.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:48 am

I'm glad you and Ham encouraged me to continue testing it. Thanks.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:50 am

Forgot to mention that my friend in Japan (who is a very good control player) says that this deck is giving him fits and it's the only deck he can't beat.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:50 am

My work here is finished.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:51 am

I've found two Jet to be a good number personally. I could see doing a 3/3 split of LS and Jet if you suspect less Sidisi or just don't care.

Brimaz had been solid vs Jeskai Tokens and all aggro decks. He has been good against Sidisi Whip and control decks, and acceptable vs Abzan. I never hate drawing him. He's ridiculous with Chandra and nice with Stoke too.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:57 am

I don't like maindeck Sarkhan right now. I also like three Chandra because she's just so good in this deck, but then again I'm running Brimaz (and you should be, too).

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:17 am

Brimaz has just never been good for me. They just always have Stoke or can't block effects and I eat shit every time I cast him. He great if you're ahead, but doesn't help much if you're behind.

Chandra is a max 2 of in any deck I build, I don't remember why, it's just a general rule of thumb when I build a deck for as long as I can remember.

Why don't you like Sarkan? I can see a 3/1 split or just dragons, but I'm not crazy about him in the SB. I don't think I ever really want 6 five drops.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:30 am

I could say the same thing about Seeker. I don't think that's a legitimate reason to not run him. He's excellent in a lot of situations.

Try three Chandra. I want to see one every game except vs UW Heroic.

I don't like Sarkhan because the format has become all about going wide and throwing haymakers. In this kind of meta I prefer flying over with a creature that can't be attacked into like Sarkhan. Pro white is also very relevant right now. 6 five drops in postboard games is fine in grindy matches of attrition.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:22 am

I'm glad you and Ham encouraged me to continue testing it. Thanks.

We've got your back, brah

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:43 am

Thoughts on this list?

[deck]
Creatures (14)
4 Seeker of the Way
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells (21)
4 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
2 Magma Jet
4 Hordeling Outburst
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Espeth, Sun's Champion
4 Stoke the Flames

Lands (25)
2 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Battlefield Forge
4 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph
11 Mountain

Sideboard (15)
4 Erase
2 Scouring Sands
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Hushwing Gryff
2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
[/deck]

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:47 am

[deck=Highlander Bomberman!]
Artifacts
Black Lotus
Lotus Petal
Lion’s Eye Diamond
Lotus Bloom
Chrome Mox
Mox Diamond
Helm of Awakening
Mox Opal
Sensei’s Divining Top
Chromatic Sphere
Chromatic Star
Skycloud Egg
Zuran Orb
Conjurer’s Bauble
Ichor Wellspring
Krark-Clan Ironworks
Prophetic Prism

Creatures
Trinket Mage
Auriok Salvagers

Other Spells
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Mind’s Desire
Balance
Brainstorm
Ponder
Preordain
Frantic Search
Ideas Unbound
Repeal
Serum Visions
Gitaxian Probe
Sleight of Hand
Open the Vaults
Second Sunrise
Perilous Research
Thoughtcast
Thirst for Knowledge
Brainfreeze
Reshape
Transmute Artifact
Faith’s Reward
Dig Through Time
Treasure Cruise

Lands
Tolaria West
Ancient Tomb
Crystal Vein
Seat of the Synod
Seachrome Coast
Adakar Wastes
Ghost Quarter
Tundra
Hallowed Fountain
4 Islands
1 Plains
1 Flooded Strand
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Polluted Delta
[/deck]

Points are:
Black Lotus (4)
Balance (1)
Dig Through Time (1)
Treasure Cruise (1)

It combines all the fun of Vintage Bomberman with Eggs from Modern of days past.

TBuzzsaw · Postby **TBuzzsaw** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:55 am

This Canadian storm is bringing fuck tons of snow here in Southern California, and even within some parts of the city limits. It's even snowing in Mexico in the Northern Baja area.

What the shit Canada, no one here wants your winter. We're comfortable with our balmy shorts weather for this time of year, tkvm.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:57 pm

Thoughts on this list?

[deck]
Creatures (14)
4 Seeker of the Way
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells (21)
4 Chained to the Rocks
4 Lightning Strike
2 Magma Jet
4 Hordeling Outburst
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Espeth, Sun's Champion
4 Stoke the Flames

Lands (25)
2 Wind-Scarred Crag
4 Battlefield Forge
4 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph
11 Mountain

Sideboard (15)
4 Erase
2 Scouring Sands
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
4 Hushwing Gryff
2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
[/deck]

Sideboard could use work, and don't like Elspeth maindeck. Seems fine otherwise.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:57 pm

Not running Glare of Heresy in the sideboard is criminal.

Dies to Removal

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