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Postby rcwraspy » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:48 pm

synergies are often fine, especially as more and more cards in your deck have synergy with each other. But relying on synergies to make a bad card good is just bad magic. How many slots do you need to dedicate to the synergy to make sure you draw it? And at what point are you diluting your deck with otherwise bad cards? Just play good cards that stand on their own or play a deck that is almost entirely synergistic. Half-way to make a bad card good is just a pitfall.
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:42 pm

Agreed. I wouldn't necessarily build around it, but instead include it in decks putting forth a strategy where it could just so happen to get maximum effectiveness from this card.
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Postby Jamie » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:16 pm

Agreed. Sometimes cards are bad so I don't put them into my deck.

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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:00 pm

Dat new 3/1 dash dude. Oh yeah
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:27 pm

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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:49 pm

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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:02 pm

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Postby Jack » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:12 pm

How about that new totally active tiny leaders section of the forums?
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Just realized it was up when I saw your post. I will probably make a few posts tomorrow night.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:03 am

Dat new 3/1 dash dude. Oh yeah
If only it had trample... I still see myself trying to play it.

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Postby windstrider » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:47 am

Dat new 3/1 dash dude. Oh yeah
It's like a pale shade of Spike Jester. I'm ok with that.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:14 am

Reminds me of Hellspark.

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Postby windstrider » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:30 am

As others have pointed out, though, Mardu Scout is a red 3-power, 2-drop with no drawbacks, not even the color restrictions of Spike Jester. And it's a common!

Granted, the Scout doesn't stick around if it's dashed out, but that's still a fairly awesome 2-drop.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:02 am

I think it has potential. Put it in one of the brews in my most recent article. Don't know how fast the editor will have it up though.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:15 pm

I'd be freaking out if I were you.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:49 pm

yeah but Alex's are worth 8.75 each
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:12 pm

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Postby GoblinWarchief » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:16 pm

Is new red 2-drop better than hellspark elemental ? Hellspark upsides were to offer some insurance against counterspells and non-exile removal. If mardu scout gets countered/removed, that's it. The advantage of course is that you can just choose to cast him normally and he sticks on the battlefield. I think i like hellspark better anyway.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:17 pm

not better than hellspark
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:19 pm

hellspark had trample

this loathsome cunt cannot even fight through a token
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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:44 pm

Can a cunt be truly loathe some, I mean alcohol and paper bags are things that can be considered sex aides for the ugly and squemish
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Postby Stardust » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:51 pm

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:37 pm

Can a cunt be truly loathe some, I mean alcohol and paper bags are things that can be considered sex aides for the ugly and squemish
go to bed, you're drunk
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Postby windstrider » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:03 pm

Spike Jester didn't have trample either. Yet, in the Dos Rakis decks, there was rarely anything more satisfying than opening with Rakdos Cackler into Spike Jester on the play. The Scout's dash ability plays well with Foundry Street Denizen.

Go with Firedrinker Satyr into Mardu Scout into the Phoenix into Phoenix/Chandra/ into Dragon/Sarkhan. I'm also interested in Flamerush Rider. That's aggressive and on-curve, but a bit glass cannonish as it can get clogged by bigger creatures.

I like a black splash for Bloodsoaked Champion, Mardu Strike Leader, and Alesha paired with Mardu Scout, Flamewake Phoenix, Ashcloud Phoenix, and Sarkhan/Stormbreath. Lots of recursion for something like that.

Probably sucks, but it'd be fun and interesting to try out.
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:06 pm

There was a difference in that token decks weren't really a thing when Spike Jester was at its best. At best there was Lingering Souls during INN/RTR Standard but it was rarely cast before turn two. Now you have people playing Raise the Alarm and gaining tons of life off Seeker triggers, Whip, and Siege Rhino which makes a 3/1 for RR pretty poorly positioned.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:11 pm

Yeah but "Dos Rakis" was not a deck, it was an FoS budg thing that literally had no results, articles, mentions or considerations for the entire time you guys played it

Spike Jester was on nobodies radar as a card with a viable deck
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Postby Jamie » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:22 pm

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:33 pm

no
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:33 pm

it's done enough damage
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:55 pm

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:59 pm

All joking aside, I do expect to start seeing aggressive devotion based strategies with Fanatic of Mogis as a curve topper to deal damage and recur the new phoenix.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:04 pm

The set will be be heavily drafted.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:05 pm

Cats ans dogs will be living together.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:07 pm

This is the dawn of a new age. A Scrump Age!
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:07 pm

#scrumpage
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Postby BlakLanner » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:09 pm

Holy shit they gave us Pyrotechnics back. If it is a good enough card any more is more in question.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:33 pm

First pick it
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:36 pm

Yeah, insane limited bomb. Remember how good Cone of Flame was?
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