[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Valdarith]

But I also think that America has a huge problem with firearms. I don't see any point to things like AR-15s being owned by private citizens. Or large-capacity magazines. I don't like the idea that there are fairs and gun shows in certain states that don't require background checks.

AR-15s are actually used quite a bit by deer hunting enthusiasts.

Just FYI.

[windstrider]

Since we've been talking about violent crime in the US, here's a link to the FBI's statistics on violent crime in the US as of 2011. It has breakdowns by type of crime and type of weapon used in each type of crime.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... lent-crime

[Alex]

Hunting is way more fun when you introduce non-firearm implements. My ex was an excellent archer, and her and her family used to go hunting every once in a great while. Nothing more awesome than seeing that shit go down.

You don't need huge guns to hunt, although I'm sure those guys who hunt quails, the most useless bird on the planet, always tote the largest weapons possible.

[Valdarith]

Hunting is way more fun when you introduce non-firearm implements. My ex was an excellent archer, and her and her family used to go hunting every once in a great while. Nothing more awesome than seeing that shit go down.

You don't need huge guns to hunt, although I'm sure those guys who hunt quails, the most useless bird on the planet, always tote the largest weapons possible.

My brother-in-law uses a bow exclusively and he's a pretty big hunter.

I don't disagree that you don't NEED a firearm to hunt, but I also don't think hunters shouldn't have their choice of weaponry.

This doesn't have to do with the gun debate at all. I'm not getting into it.

[PirateKingAtomsk]

[/quote]
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength[/quote]

didn't realize you became a preaher for the church of kamhal...

[rcwraspy]

Yeah, I don't mean to fire up gun debate in the thread. As you can tell by my wall of text on the other page, I'm fairly wishy-washy about it and honestly, I haven't formed my full opinion yet.

I can understand multiple points of view on the subject.

[RedNihilist]

1984 gets mentioned a lot lately.
I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.

Anyways, news from Kaze?

[DroppinSuga]

Hunting is way more fun when you introduce non-firearm implements. My ex was an excellent archer, and her and her family used to go hunting every once in a great while. Nothing more awesome than seeing that shit go down.

You don't need huge guns to hunt, although I'm sure those guys who hunt quails, the most useless bird on the planet, always tote the largest weapons possible.

Quail's actually require a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun, typically.

I'm from redneck country in the Northeast, so my views on guns are much different than most of you. I fully support the right to own firearms. The only thing that doesn't really bother me about gun control is limiting the clip size, but even that is a bit ridiculous. I mean 5-10 people dying is
really just as bad as 30, so what's the point?

[rcwraspy]

I mean 5-10 people dying is really just as bad as 30, so what's the point?

Not sure if serious or not, but I'm pretty sure the families of the extra 20 folks would disagree.

From a complete outsider's perspective, I get it though. Tragedy is tragedy.

[Khaospawn]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm less afraid of gun-wielding maniacs then I am of red's dick barging into my house and coating everything I own in a two feet thick layer of pre-cum.

[Self Medicated]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm less afraid of gun-wielding maniacs then I am of red's dick barging into my house and coating everything I own in a two feet thick layer of pre-cum.

[Khaospawn]

Not that it's ever happened before ....

[Khaospawn]

SM, that face reminds me of the quiet golfer in Happy Gilmore that just shakes his head.

[Valdarith]

SM, that face reminds me of the quiet golfer in Happy Gilmore that just shakes his head.

Lee Trevino.

[Khaospawn]

Hey, Shooter, you forgot your nine iron!

[Self Medicated]

Lee Trevino cracked me up in that.

[Pendulum]

...pre-cum? Freelz?

I also apologize for barging in, but I do wish to offer Kaze my sympathies. You're a hell of a guy from what I know of you, man, you don't deserve that.

[DroppinSuga]

Pendy, get out of our thread!

[rcwraspy]

Here's hoping Kaze's silence the past few hours is a good thing.

[Khaospawn]

Maybe he's trying to hide the bodies right now?

[redthirst]

I don't know what you're talking about Khaos. He's been here with me the whole time.

[Khaospawn]

I see what you did there.

[redthirst]

You can see all you want, but just don't say anything.

Stop the snitchin' y'all.

[Khaospawn]

There I was in Deebo's pigeon coop. Sweating like a slave.


Sorry, I don't know where that came from.

[zemanjaski]

Getting made breakfast in bed this morning was enough freedom for me.

Hope you're holding up Kaze, follow the advice of the peeps in here and we'll do our best to see you through this.

[LP, of the Fires]

I have a different perspective to the gun debate.

I'm black.

My grandmother is old and has old people fears. She also lives in a constant fear of me getting shot and killed since I'm black and live in LA which funnily enough I don't think isn't totally irrational because I've seen a fair amount of crazy shit and nearly walked into the middle of a drive by last week.

She lived in Montgomery Alabama as a kid when segregation was rampant. Her brothers marched to the Washington Monument with king. She witnessed a fair amount of gun violence in her youth.

My father was born and raised in a rough part of LA. In or near the Watts district and Compton respectively. He and his older brother and myself are all military and indeed war vets. Air force, Army, and Air force respectively.

My father joined the service in 81 when crack first hit LA. He came back to visit in 84 when crack was the new drug and came back to it
having completely destroyed everything the community had tried to built. The community hasn't recovered.

Me and him think the idea of citizens having access to all weapons for the sake of an armed militia is laughable. Why? Because he's seen it in action.

Back tracking.

Martin Luther King: preached intergration. Shot.

Malcolm X: preached segregation. Shot.

Huey P. Newton. Created the Black Panther party. Had an armed militia. People patrolling the streets with m-16s, instituting survival programs were free services such as clothing distribution, classes on politics and economics, free medical clinics, lessons on self-defense and first aid, transportation to upstate prisons for family members of inmates, an emergency-response ambulance program, drug and alcohol rehabilitation, and testing for sickle-cell disease.

The panther party was labeled as a threat to America and was targeted by the FBI until it was destroyed by a number of separate factors.

How is this relevant? Well,
seeing as history has shown us an example of an actual armed militia that was actually serving it's community well, me and my dad are of the opinion that the only way any current day militia trying to thrive in the beast that is the American Government is only going to prosper if it's goals lines up with those in power. People don't actually have a concept of how FUCKING POWERFUL, our government is. You had 2 people with diametrically opposed views killed for simply speaking out against the government. And by the way, the US has admitted in court to being at fault for MLKs death. The notion that a bunch of citizens can have an armed revolt against the government when we have fucking predators and cruise missiles that we can kill people with half way around the world...silly.

And I'm not anti-American. As I've said, me and mine have fought for freedom-whatever that means-and I'd rather live in America then anywhere else(granted I live in southern California). But I think anyone who wants a stockpile
of machine guns and RPG's for when the revolution comes is delusional.

Have your nine mil, your Remington shotgun, your hunting rifle, that's fine. Go to town with your conceal carry, I support that. It is your right to have protection from criminals. But that I feel is the armament that you need. And get a background check while your at. But a tech nine? Please.

[LP, of the Fires]

Or maybe I'm just a racist fuck and hate all the gun loving white people

[Khaospawn]

Kincey, you so smart.

[hamfactorial]

Aww, now I have white guilt!

[Khaospawn]

I always have white guilt.

[Kazekirimaru]

Thanks for the sympathies, guys.

Unfortunately, the house is in her name. So are the vehicles. When we started out, she had funds from after her mother passed away. Plus we were seventeen so it was easiest at the time to put the house under her name and have her father co-sign on stuff and "pay" the bills until she was eighteen. She has every legal right to force me out. Not all at once - I think you have to give someone a month to make arrangements - but regardless. I left. I don't want to see her.

She doesn't want to talk. I can only come to the conclusion she's been planning this for a while. She always said she'd go get the proper paperwork to put the house under my name as well and she never did. She never even changed her last name.

It makes me sick to wonder how long this has been going on. And why. Was I not enough? Do I just suck that bad that she had to leave me all at once?

Thinking about it,
it makes a bit of sense. She's that type of person. She can change her entire life in one day without feeling any remorse or giving a fuck about anyone else. When we first started living together, we were still in high school. She just abruptly left her home and left her father and decided she needed to go. Nothing more. Now she's done it to me. She's searching for something she apparently didn't find with me. I think she's got some serious issues she refuses to deal with, and a hole in her heart he can't fill. So she searches. So she alters her life here and there. And when it doesn't fill that hole, she changes something else. I just never thought it would escalate to this.

I keep thinking she'll change her mind. I actually passed her in the car on my way to my folks' house. I know she's back at my old home by now, and I didn't exactly leave it in a nice state. And yet, she's still to much of a coward to say a word to me.

I'm just so torn up. I can't keep food down. All I want to do is
sleep. I told work I wasn't coming in for a while. Everyone at home keeps rubbing my back and hugging me and telling me it'll be okay but it doesn't ease my pain. I feel like I need to run away in any direction but I know that won't help me escape the pain. I just...my entire life is disintegrated. She was my first and only love, the only person I've ever known completely. We've shared so many experiences. And she just left. Few words. Not even spoken. She just decided it was time for me to go. It's like a nightmare. I just don't understand.

[Khaospawn]

Kaze, I'm so sorry to hear that.



Time, dude. Time heals a lot. And you may get your answer, you may not. But we're here for you. And we'll still be here while you get stronger from this.

[Yarpus]

Thanks for the sympathies, guys.

Unfortunately, the house is in her name. So are the vehicles. When we started out, she had funds from after her mother passed away. Plus we were seventeen so it was easiest at the time to put the house under her name and have her father co-sign on stuff and "pay" the bills until she was eighteen. She has every legal right to force me out. Not all at once - I think you have to give someone a month to make arrangements - but regardless. I left. I don't want to see her.

She doesn't want to talk. I can only come to the conclusion she's been planning this for a while. She always said she'd go get the proper paperwork to put the house under my name as well and she never did. She never even changed her last name.

It makes me sick to wonder how long this has been going on. And why. Was I not enough? Do I just suck that bad that she had to leave me all at once?

nThinking about it, it makes a bit of sense. She's that type of person. She can change her entire life in one day without feeling any remorse or giving a fuck about anyone else. When we first started living together, we were still in high school. She just abruptly left her home and left her father and decided she needed to go. Nothing more. Now she's done it to me. She's searching for something she apparently didn't find with me. I think she's got some serious issues she refuses to deal with, and a hole in her heart he can't fill. So she searches. So she alters her life here and there. And when it doesn't fill that hole, she changes something else. I just never thought it would escalate to this.

I keep thinking she'll change her mind. I actually passed her in the car on my way to my folks' house. I know she's back at my old home by now, and I didn't exactly leave it in a nice state. And yet, she's still to much of a coward to say a word to me.

I'm just so torn up. I can't keep food down.
All I want to do is sleep. I told work I wasn't coming in for a while. Everyone at home keeps rubbing my back and hugging me and telling me it'll be okay but it doesn't ease my pain. I feel like I need to run away in any direction but I know that won't help me escape the pain. I just...my entire life is disintegrated. She was my first and only love, the only person I've ever known completely. We've shared so many experiences. And she just left. Few words. Not even spoken. She just decided it was time for me to go. It's like a nightmare. I just don't understand.

Shit is definitely going down. Fuck. Damn. Fuck.
You have your family and friends to rub your back and say "everything is going to be fine". Both you and me know that "no, it won't be for a while".
Get rest. Get up. Don't let this shit get into your head. You got fucked. SO WHAT. It's more important to not get fucked in future.
Don't trust people. Never, ever. They are mostly bunch of fucking
rapists waiting for you to bend over. Get everything legal, signed on paper.
If someone will ever want to help you, accept it. Holy crap, you are really going to need that. Don't be all "No, I'll handle it myself."
It's all about making sure that one year later, you will laugh on this shit instead of crying about this shit.

[photodyer]

Kaze, I wish there were words to make it all come into focus, but there aren't...God knows people tried for me. Just know that there are a number of us here who can relate on multiple levels and we're here for you, brother.

In my case, she wasn't my first love, but she was the person with whom I'd spent almost my entire adult life. She had issues, I had issues and we had issues, but I never could have imagined that she would fall into the trap of addiction and become the person she did. The simple truth is none of us ever know anyone completely--it's impossible because most people don't even know themselves what they are capable of until they are faced with a decision that makes them choose a course of action.

What you describe regarding her behavior sounds very much like what many of us have described to the clan--a person suffering from a personality disorder. If so, there simply is no making sense of it because
it defies logic. It is insanity.

I truly know how you feel right now, man...I started scaring myself because I just wanted to hide in my bed and wait for the world to pass by or return to some semblance of sanity. Regardless of what else you do, get counseling from someone competent, and sooner rather than later. You're going to need some help finding perspective and getting the earth back under your feet, as well as in understanding how to grow forward from here.

May serenity find you soon, my friend.

[redthirst]

Been there Kaze. - it fucking sucks.

Whatever you need, if we can help we will. Also, in what part of Indiana do you live? I'll be up that way October.

(Even though your location is listed as MI, I'm positive I heard somewhere that you were actually in IN)

[Kazekirimaru]

I actually currently live in Michigan. About eight miles north of the border. About 25 minutes from South Bend.

[redthirst]

I'll have to ask the woman where exactly in IN we'll be going - if it's doable we can get together that Fri or Sat night and chill.

[Alex]

I'll have to ask the woman where exactly in IN we'll be going - if it's doable we can get together that Fri or Sat night and chill.

You know, there's a 1k here in Charlotte this weekend....



Also Fate/Nuwen, you guys gonna be there?

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm not sure if I'll be ready to converse with other humans at that point.

[Kazekirimaru]

But the comradeship is comforting.