[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:24 am

And it's a Flinthoof Boar every time you draw a land, which is sweet.

windstrider · Postby **windstrider** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:32 am

So, blue gets a sorta-sweeper that exiles creatures permanently? That's quite insane. Sure, you get 2/2 swines out of it, but that's still pretty nuts.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:35 am

What's this I hear about a RG Planeswalker?

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:36 am

Dat removal.

Bai guize, gonna blue stuff nao

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:49 am

OMG that blue card.

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:52 am

YOU BLUE IT UP!

GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:11 am

That comparison doesn't is so far off it hurts

Also, tutelage was ALSO a sideboard card

I also like that blue card. It forces deckbuilders to make interesting decisions and seems awesome in limited.

Solemn10 · Postby **Solemn10** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:12 am

We're all gonna be exiled and turn into swine.... Damn it. Should at least have been xxuu. It's way better than bonfire. You can combo with detention sphere or ratchet bomb to make everyone cry.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:14 am

It's actually not THAT great. And supreme verdict is still in standard people

It's interesting because you can exile your own cards if that's every relevant, and because it removes indestructible cards like gods.

Link · Postby **Link** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:23 am

so they go and print gods so that it feels like were playing epic games of magic and then go and give BLUE a way to turn our RAGE HAMMER GOD OF SALVATION into a fucking SWINE?

jesus fucking hell

edit: the hammer looks nice, but I understand LP's concerns.

Red has always been why red can't have nice things.

Remember when we could Ash Zealot+Rancor and shit on anything all the time?

Yeah then those kids went and just HAD to go faster with BTE+LM and madcap skills and 4maindeck pillars, ruining our goddamn engines by just killing us dead while we tried to have nice things

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:29 am

Bets on the legendary land enabling ember swallower as a wrath affect?

I REALLY like Nykthos in mono-red.

Cackler>ash zealout>reckoner>Ember Swallower>Nykthos make a million mana, exile all the lands and beat face with your 7/8 elemental. Oh, and nykthos means you still have a million mana.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:36 am

I will be playing multiple copies of the hammer in any red deck I play going forward. The card does too many things to not just be stone-cold nuts.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:03 am

DT was definitely a maindeck card in Vamps.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:06 am

Bets on the legendary land enabling ember swallower as a wrath affect?

I REALLY like Nykthos in mono-red.

Cackler>ash zealout>reckoner>Ember Swallower>Nykthos make a million mana, exile all the lands and beat face with your 7/8 elemental. Oh, and nykthos means you still have a million mana.

Everything having RR in it gets pretty gross, yeah.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:19 am

Jesus Christ wizards, BLUE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO GET POWERFUL REMOVAL SPELLS YOU FUCKTARDS:

Definitely seems a little OP for straight-up blue comparing it cost and effecti-wise to, say, Turn to Frog. But again, as much as I don't want this coming across the table at me, I have to give the design team 10/10 on flavor. They nailed Circe perfectly, though if they followed The Odyssey to the letter, the spell would be reversible...

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:27 am

Curse of the Swine is quite disgusting. Mass, TARGETED, removal? And the creatures are exiled? Really? Fuck that. Way too overpowered. I'm drunk, by the way. So I'm probably overreacting. Whatever the case, I DON'T like this card.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:28 am

What's this I hear about a RG Planeswalker?

Xenagos, the Reveler

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:30 am

What's this I hear about a RG Planeswalker?
Xenagos, the Reveler

Say whaaaaaaaaat?

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:31 am

Any deets?

Link · Postby **Link** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:38 am

MOAR GRUUL PLANESWALKAH?

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:43 am

I gotta say, I like all the Scry I'm seeing from blue this set.

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:46 am

I gotta say, I like all the Scry I'm seeing from blue this set.

I'm super happy about getting scry in red. Whatever we can get to smooth out our draws is fine by me.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:47 am

About to be really sad come rotation. Been playing the aristocrats all day and just stealing wins from noobs with clever play.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:52 am

I gotta say, I like all the Scry I'm seeing from blue this set.
I'm super happy about getting scry in red. Whatever we can get to smooth out our draws is fine by me.

I really should have said "from all colors" or at least red, blue, and black. I'm a huge fan of Scry. Preordain was my bro.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:58 am

Any deets?

From the Worldbuilding panel discussion; they showed a pic and described Xenagos as a satyr planeswalker. There is some confusion with this as far as story line stuff because at some point Xenagos is supposed to become a god (which fits with another pic that is in the art spoilers where he is shown in godlike proportions towering over a building with galaxies winding through his torso). Sorry but I can't link the pics from here, though I'm sure that they are over on Sally.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:01 am

I gotta say, I like all the Scry I'm seeing from blue this set.

Yeah, just saw another one spoiled--1

for Unsummon with Scry 1 tacked on.

Kazekirimaru · Postby **Kazekirimaru** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:02 am

A God Planeswalker, eh?

I don't like where that's going flavor-wise.

-I really hate how my computer corrects me whenever I type "colour." >.>-

windstrider · Postby **windstrider** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:05 am

Hellrider would have been really nice with that Hammer on the board. Gonna miss that guy.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:09 am

Baby cerberus is not at all exciting for Standard (1/2 DS for 1

), but this color devotion thing is really going to make for some interesting drafting I would think.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:11 am

A God Planeswalker, eh?

I don't like where that's going flavor-wise.

-I really hate how my computer corrects me whenever I type "colour." >.>-

To clarify, the pic they showed of Xenagos for the PW was not godlike; the picture from the art dump is.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:12 am

Print some more burn spells dammit. Also, spoil the whole set already.

Baby Cerebus is just the worst Mirran Crusader / Boros Swiftblade ever

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:15 am

Yeah. Two headed Cerberus sucks, but Magma Jet makes me happy.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:21 am

Print some more burn spells dammit. Also, spoil the whole set already.

Baby Cerebus is just the worst Mirran Crusader / Boros Swiftblade ever

Agree on all counts, zeman...I hate this trickle-spoiler crap for marketing. And that cerberus doesn't even deserve to be in the same sentence with Crusader, though I suppose it's not fair of me to compare a common with a scary rare. Thinking of Crusader in Delver still makes my face twitch...

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:27 am

Thinking about it, that baby cerberus makes sense in this set; as a common, its going to be a decent target creature for layering on enchantments given that this set is taking them as a focus. Depending on now much and what kind of removal there is, he could get stupid really quickly with the right pumps.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:34 am

Well green stays with big and stompy!

Nylea, God of the Hunt

Legendary Enchantment Creature-God (M)

Indestructible

As long as your devotion to green is less than 5, Nylea isn’t a creature. (Each

in the mana costs of permanents you control counts towards your devotion to green.)

Other creatures you control have trample.

: Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.

Solemn10 · Postby **Solemn10** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:35 am

Inb4 hexproof being broken. Also, Daxos doesn't let you play lands does he?

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:56 am

No it doesn't, because it specifically says you can "cast" and not "play".

TubeHunter · Postby **TubeHunter** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:10 am

How this for a cube deck?

[deck]batterskull
sword of light and shadow

edric, spymaster of trest
Eternal Witness
Exalted Angel
Genesis
Kataki, War's Wage
Lotus Cobra
Meloku, the Clouded Mirror
Nekrataal
Nezumi Graverobber
Primeval Titan
Shriekmaw
Sower of Temptation
Stonforge Mystic
Viridian Shaman
Wall of Omens
Wickerbourh Elder

Survival of the Fittest

Fact or Fiction
Consuming Vapors
Garruk Wildspeaker
Maelstrom Pulse

Bayou
Dust Bowl
forest
marsh flats
misty Rainforest
Overgrown Tomb
Plains
Island
Savanah
swamp
Temple Garden
Treetop Village
Tundra
Volrath's Stronghold
Wasteland
Watery Grave
Windswepth Heath
[/deck]

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:28 am

Photo's following up on post from...Photo:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=534407

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:33 am

Titan of Eternal Fire

All humans you control have R, tap, deal 1 damage to target creature or player.

Unfortunately, he's a six drop 5/6 and a giant.

They also just spoiled a card that when it becomes monstrous can black 99 creatures. You know, because it has 100 hands.

Dies to Removal

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