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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:15 am

@Kimbra: The problem with Grim is that he is really hit or miss (same with Vexing Devil) - excellent vs creature based decks horrible vs removal heavy or combo decks.

@Lazer: I have the match recorded but not the comment - with v4 I find it difficult to know when people are chatting with me while I'm in-game (its like that GW Token MU I uploaded where I only notice he was raging RIGHT at the end (which maybe why he kept on ragging)).
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:05 am

Won a 8-Man tourney beating Living End, Junk, and Naya Kiki-Jiki - Restoration Angel /Scapeshift. I dunno what to fucking call that last deck..

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
3 Relic of Progenitus
4 Searing Blood
4 Smash to Smithereens
[/deck]
I like it - I shall give it a shot today

(1) Though I want to run 2 Magma Jet because running 8x 3cc LD spells makes me uncomfortable with only 20 lands.

(2) EDIT: You know that feeling you get when you beat Soul Sisters with 2x Searing blood and Searing Blaze, and he PM you with rage post match? Priceless ;-)

(3) EDIT2: Why doesn't Boil see play?
(1) 8x 3cc on 20 lands is about the most you can get away with. With that said, Magma Jet is a fine card and when I was running it, I was actually using it to send excess lands away.

(2) FUCK. YES! You da man, sir! :thumbsup:

(3) 2 reasons: It costs 4 and it doesn't deal damage.
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:00 am

I think running 8 creatures seems solid, I'm going to try running 3x Shard Volley and 1x MJ in its place (each time I draw MJ and lose due to 1 life I'll mark it down :yes:).

P.S. My grinder buddies tell me playing Modern SE with burn is a death trap since so much **** flies down there which would never make G3-4 in a DE, but after reading your reports Khaos - I don't thinks its all that bad anything more so thanks for clearing that up :)
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:16 am

Looking forward to reading the report! :)
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:08 pm

:tears: I went 2-1 losing the finals vs RBw Burn due too greed, the games I played (affinity, scapeshift and burn) Vexing Devil would of been better then Shard Volley (with one exception) - I'll still keep testing it :yes:
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:41 pm

I lost to a Rbw deck the other day. He had the triple guide opener on the play and then in game 2 he landed 2 spellskites on me. What's a guy to do? :shrug:
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:48 pm

Ouch, was it curryvore?

In my case I threw a easy game away, I banked on my epic land drawing skills and used an early fetch (with Searing blaze in hand) even though I KNEW he had creatures because I wanted to LD him (had I waited or just taken the 4 from Devil it would of been gg) :D
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Postby Kimbra » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:52 pm

So, after reading all these reports, I have to assume that the RBw version is better than ours monored in the "mirror"?
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:55 pm

MonoR with Dragon Claw would turn the MU into a cakewalk - I'm not sure about Khaos but me losing that MU (with the LD list) was because I was bad rather then the deck itself - if you watch the video when I upload it next week you'll most likely end up screaming at the screen at my horrible choices.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:32 pm

It was curryvore! I take it that you've tangled with him?
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:36 pm

Agreed on using Dragon's Claw. I'm tempted to switch out the Relics for it, but I have been encountering a lot of GY based combo decks - Krark Clan Ironworks, Living End, Goryo's Vengeance, Storm, etc. Plus, I really value the Relic in the Pod and Rock matches. I think I'll just take my chances with the mirror and just do my best to outplay my opponent, plus I know that the Rbw Burn decks hurt themselves a lot with their manabase, which makes my job a little bit easier.
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Postby Blackhound » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:51 am

Thunderous Wrath as a 1 of ?

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:19 am

:no:
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:20 am

It'll never be cast if it's in your opener and it'd be a shame just to mulligan away an otherwise playable hand just because of that card.
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Postby Aodh » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:22 am

Well you wouldn't actually mulligan the hand because of that card because if it's playable, you can't expect more out of actual 6...

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:10 am

Don't let me stop you from playing it...
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Postby GoblinWarchief » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:31 am

Reason not to play thunderous wrath : we want to end the game by turn 4-6 , so we almost never draw more cards than we have in our opening hand. Since Thunderous Wrath is a card you don't want to have in the opener and you want to draw later, it is more likely that it will be there clunking your starter 7 than you will find it in the next 4-5 cards you draw.

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Postby hamfactorial » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:00 pm

T Wrath is turrrrrrible

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Postby magicdownunder » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:26 pm

I tried playing curry the other day, its quite good but I hate that feeling of only having 1 route (race).

I still love Levy's LD list and Hock's Burn list the most, not sure which one I believe is better though.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:24 pm

That curry list...yeah, I'm not a fan either.
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Postby magicdownunder » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:35 pm

That curry list...yeah, I'm not a fan either.
That said the Refraction Trap and Lingering Souls are really sick :) - I think the deck NEEDS 4x Bridge so you have some hope vs aggro and midrange - no idea how curryvore does it.

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Levy's TCG article - http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11956

Levy's Burn Modern SE Report 7361123
G1 Robots vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123
[url=https://www&#
46;youtube.com/watch?v=zuhNB20g6e4&list=UUOED7KvwLH_yozWSu-QWADg]G2 Scapeshift vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123[/url]
G3 RBw Burn (Curry) vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123

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[deck=Levy's Burn edited by MDU]Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
1 Magma Jet
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
4 Scalding Tarn
12 Mountain

Sideboard
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
2 Relic of Progenitus
4 Searing Blood
4 Smash to Smithereens[/deck]
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:42 pm

I keep losing in 8-Mans to G/R Tron and Scapeshift with Levy's LD list. You'd think those decks would be extremely favorable for me, but Tron keeps playing Karn and Wurmcoils on me T3/T4 and I seem to have the worst draws against Scapeshift - once they're able to cast Cryptic, I seem to hit the floods....

Anyway, trying something a little different right now. One thing that's been bothering me is that Molten Rain is a sorcery and I think I want to be in a position where almost everything I can cast is an instant. Just slapped this together:

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Searing Blood
4 Skullcrack
4 Flames of the Blood Hand

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
4 Molten Rain
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Forked Bolt
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Combust
3 Smash to Smithereens
[/deck]
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I just entered an 8-Man and played against what I'm assuming is a Hocking Burn list. The guy rage quit in Game 2 when I landed a Dragon's Claw and I had Searing cards for days.
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:12 pm

Aaaaaaaand lost to a U/R deck because I mulled into oblivion in both games. Time to pack it in for the day. :/
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Postby magicdownunder » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:54 am

I keep losing in 8-Mans to G/R Tron and Scapeshift with Levy's LD list. You'd think those decks would be extremely favorable for me, but Tron keeps playing Karn and Wurmcoils on me T3/T4 and I seem to have the worst draws against Scapeshift - once they're able to cast Cryptic, I seem to hit the floods....
I mention this before but Levy list is weak vs Combo (esp. U Combo), it thrive against fair decks but vs unfair list they usually only need to hit T3-4 to win so holding the counter for LD isn't difficult.
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Levy's TCG article - http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11956

Levy's Burn Modern
SE Report 7361123

G1 Robots vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123
G2 Scapeshift vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123
G3 RBw Burn (Curry) vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361123

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[deck=Levy's Burn edited by MDU]Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
1 Magma Jet
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
4 Scalding Tarn
12 Mountain

Sideboard
1 Flames of the Blood Hand
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
2 Relic of Progenitus
4 Searing Blood
4 Smash to
Smithereens[/deck]
Levy's Burn Modern SE Report 7361112
G1 Soul Sisters vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361112
G2 Pod vs Levy's Burn Modern SE 7361112
G3 Split

I'm thinking about going back to Rg because Burn is currently sitting on 2nd as the the deck with the most finishes online :sweat:.
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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:32 pm

You were just splashing green for Revelry, right?
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Postby magicdownunder » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:38 pm

You were just splashing green for Revelry, right?
Yep, sometimes even one Back to Nature for the extra lols
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:43 pm

MDU, are you seeing a lot of Tron in your events?
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:10 pm

Took down an SE beating 2 R/G Tron decks and a U/R Delver deck with this:

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
4 Searing Blood
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Cryoclasm
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Smash to Smithereens
1 Guerrilla Tactics
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Postby hamfactorial » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:34 pm

:frog: all glory to the Eidolon

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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:38 pm

Little bear is a fuckin' baller.
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:16 am

Just got smacked silly by T2 Ensoul Artifact on a Darksteel Citadel + Cranial Plating in the Affinity match. Fuck that shit. :flame:
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Postby magicdownunder » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:53 am

MDU, are you seeing a lot of Tron in your events?
I havn't been playing much modern as of late - but no I havn't seen them much since tron earn the name GP Fail all those months ago.

Your biggest threat is Wurm, so just pack some smash and kill them during the attack step it should buy you enough time to finish the job (this MU is much harder for RDW since the Wurm is just a wall and a half).
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Postby magicdownunder » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:07 pm

I queued up for a Modern SE and accidentally entered with my standard burn deck - I ended up going 1-1 playing against Junk twice (I lost because I failed to draw lands).

Anyhow - perhaps a port could work out, we could play Shrine and Chandra Phoenix for CA while we focus on wearing away on them slowly with cards like Lighting Helix, Searing Blaze/Blood, Fork bolt, Lighting Bolt. Rift Bolt and so on.
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Postby Toddington » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:12 pm

Wow, Shrine would be so good in standard burn! Probably wouldn't need to play white in Modern though, unless you want Path? Would you still jam Pyromancer?

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:09 pm

Pffft, I love signing up for a Daily and having to play Hexproof Round 1. A 6/6 lifelinker ended me Game 1. In Game 2, I kept a hand with 3 Skullcracks. He played a Leyline. Auto-concede.
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:54 pm

Went 3-1 in a Daily with this:

[deck]
Creatures 12
4 Goblin Guide
4 Vexing Devil
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel

Burn 28
2 Forked Bolt
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Searing Blaze
4 Skullcrack
2 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Molten Rain

Land 20
4 Arid Mesa
16 Mountain


Sideboard
2 Cryoclasm
2 Peak Eruption
2 Dragon's Claw
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Searing Blood
3 Smash to Smithereens
[/deck]

R1: Hexproof Loss 0-2

R2: UR Delver Win 2-1 (Received my first condescending chat after beating him :evillol: )

R3: UWR Control Win 2-0

R4: GR Tron Win 2-0
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:08 pm

I want your guys' thoughts on Vulshok Refugee. Mirror tech over Dragon's Claw?
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Postby Platypus » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:10 pm

You can probably get another condescending chat by using it, so go for it...

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:11 pm

You can probably get another condescending chat by using it, so go for it...

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Postby Platypus » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:17 pm

Btw...how important are those VDs? I really like the look of the deck, but I'm missing those (and a few other cheap cards).
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