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I tend to be very selective of anime, I hate most of them, but there are a few I like. Like any other style or genre, some of it's good, some is bad. And I can even admit that some of the ones I like are crap. Soul Eater is crap, but I really like it. Mobile Suit Gundam however is the real deal, if you haven't seen it you should rectify that. And no one I know of has ever seen cowboy bebop and not enjoyed it. Even my dad who by and large hates anime, agreed that, while we wouldn't watch it on his own, it was really good (then a week later I couldn't find my bebop dvds and they were in his room and the movie was in his dvd player)
The reason you rarely see burn in the higher rounds of a legacy event is because most pros would rather play something that lets them show off their skills, where as much of burn's game plan is pretty much decided by what you draw no surprises, there is some issue with sequencing, but
beyond that it's very much decided for you. It's a better deck than it's tournament appearances would indicate, but high level players almost universally dislike playing it. I am not a high level player, I will take the deck that leverages out my lower play skill happily, add to that burn is fairly cheap compared to the stuff you Z and others playing. Combine this with the fact that lots of low level players have realized the same thing and you can begin to see why those without byes fear it intensely. The issue becomes "what if one sneaks up to where you start"? Lots of people working byes are going to have the same idea that Z does, but if lots of people run decks over which burn runs roughshod there could be some serious problems. Also burn is not completely dead to sneak and show. Sneak attack can be needled, and reb counters show and tell, so it has answer, just not reliable ones.
The reason you rarely see burn in the higher rounds of a legacy event is because most pros would rather play something that lets them show off their skills, where as much of burn's game plan is pretty much decided by what you draw no surprises, there is some issue with sequencing, but
beyond that it's very much decided for you. It's a better deck than it's tournament appearances would indicate, but high level players almost universally dislike playing it. I am not a high level player, I will take the deck that leverages out my lower play skill happily, add to that burn is fairly cheap compared to the stuff you Z and others playing. Combine this with the fact that lots of low level players have realized the same thing and you can begin to see why those without byes fear it intensely. The issue becomes "what if one sneaks up to where you start"? Lots of people working byes are going to have the same idea that Z does, but if lots of people run decks over which burn runs roughshod there could be some serious problems. Also burn is not completely dead to sneak and show. Sneak attack can be needled, and reb counters show and tell, so it has answer, just not reliable ones.
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get outConfession: I think anime is a waste of time.
get outNot a big anime guy myself. ( I love breezing through a good manga though)
get outI'm a fan of DBZ. Not much else.
Open up a bit. I used to think this way and I realized I was just embarassed of my own hobbies for no particular reason. If you like it, it's not bad. "Guilty pleasures" shouldn't be a thing, in my opinion. Own the shit you like.I tend to be very selective of anime, I hate
most of them, but there are a few I like. Like any other style or genre, some of it's good, some is bad. And I can even admit that some of the ones I like are crap. Soul Eater is crap, but I really like it. Mobile Suit Gundam however is the real deal, if you haven't seen it you should rectify that. And no one I know of has ever seen cowboy bebop and not enjoyed it. Even my dad who by and large hates anime, agreed that, while we wouldn't watch it on his own, it was really good (then a week later I couldn't find my bebop dvds and they were in his room and the movie was in his dvd player)
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I did not discover anime till college (exposure). Thought it was dumb. The only close thing I like was Avatar the Last Airbender and legend of Korra. They look kind of close?
My friends tried to get me into it but I just had no interest. Marvel and DC I watch religously, but stuff like Full Metal...I am not sure the of the last word in the title...are not my thing. I grew up on Military shows like Black Sheep Squadren, Combat, X-Files, Stargate SG-1, and other non-anime stuff. The thing about anime that pisses me off are the stupid weapons. No one can weild a weapon that improbable except redthirst.
My friends tried to get me into it but I just had no interest. Marvel and DC I watch religously, but stuff like Full Metal...I am not sure the of the last word in the title...are not my thing. I grew up on Military shows like Black Sheep Squadren, Combat, X-Files, Stargate SG-1, and other non-anime stuff. The thing about anime that pisses me off are the stupid weapons. No one can weild a weapon that improbable except redthirst.
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I have used multiple real weapons and know their uses. Anime is lost on me then. To much talking, not enoungh dropping of douschebags.I think thats the point.... The thing about anime that pisses me off are the stupid weapons. No one can weild a weapon that improbable except redthirst.
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You're all terrible and everything you love is stupid.
There.
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not sure, whatever version this is: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes.html@Fate: What edition? I learned playing 3.0/3.5 that monks sucked big time. Or perhaps it was just mine...
I found some guide for building monks that said "people think monk's suck because they try to build them with wisdom and shit to compensate for their low AC"
I went full strength and have been punching the literal shit out of zombies ghouls and cult leaders. I get beat up sometimes but thats what nuwen's for
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not sure, whatever version this is: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes.html@Fate: What edition? I learned playing 3.0/3.5 that monks sucked big time. Or perhaps it was just mine...
I found some guide for building monks that said "people think monk's suck because they try to build them with wisdom and shit to compensate for their low AC"
I went full strength and have been punching the literal shit out of zombies ghouls and cult leaders. I get beat up sometimes
but thats what nuwen's for






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Pathfinder could be considered 3.75. It's probably better than 3.0/3.5. I remember now that my monk was 3.0 and thatnot sure, whatever version this is: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes.html@Fate: What edition? I learned playing 3.0/3.5 that monks sucked big time. Or perhaps it was just mine...
I found some guide for building monks that said "people think monk's suck because they try to build them with wisdom and shit to compensate for their low AC"
the 3.5 was a lot better, but we didn't convert our characters to 3.5.
Yeah, my build was a high wisdom build...might have been the reason to why it sucked.

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I'm a big anime fan. The unrealistic shit is why I watch any television. Despite being in the military, I'm not a gun nut at all so the face vs. real thing gets a resounding "meh" from me.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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I'm also of the opinion that anime isn't a thing to be "understood". It's just another medium of entertainment. My father just watches anime because it reminds him of comics and he likes the art. If you think anime is stupid, you either just haven't seen anything you've liked or are likely not into animation.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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I think "i don't understand" is probably the wrong terminology. I guess I just don't get a lot of the anime that I've seen. Most of what I've been exposed to has been overly sexualized and/or overly melodramatic. Both of those things seem too easy to accomplish and therefore the only appeal is the artwork itself.I'm also of the opinion that anime isn't a thing to be "understood". It's just another medium of entertainment. My father just watches anime because it reminds him of comics and he likes the art. If you think anime is stupid, you either just haven't seen anything you've liked or are likely not into animation.
That said, I really liked Cowboy Bebop when it was on Adult Swim about 10 years ago. I
haven't watch Adult Swim in about that long, though, so don't know if it's still on or what has replaced it.
But that's space cowboy stuff. I eat that shit up.

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This is what anime/manga is to me as well. Just another medium of entertainment. If I think I'll enjoy a movie or similar, then I'll watch it, but I don't seek it out either. I've enjoyed most Studio Ghibli/Hayao Miyazaki movies I've seen.I'm also of the opinion that anime isn't a thing to be "understood". It's just another medium of entertainment.

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Like any entertainment medium it's mostly bad with a few standouts. Anyone want to argue that most movies, television or music are not bad?
I probably like 1 in 4 anime I watch, but I still "like anime". Conversely I like about 1/50 things on TV...
So yeah, as Kaze-ani says, get the fuck out haters.
I probably like 1 in 4 anime I watch, but I still "like anime". Conversely I like about 1/50 things on TV...
So yeah, as Kaze-ani says, get the fuck out haters.

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That's a really good point. I hadn't thought of it that way.Like any entertainment medium it's mostly bad with a few standouts. Anyone want to argue that most movies, television or music are not bad?
I probably like 1 in 4 anime I watch, but I still "like anime". Conversely I like about 1/50 things on TV...
So yeah, as Kaze-ani says, get the fuck out haters.
Still, no time to get into something new. I'm only just now watching Season 1 of The Walking Dead.

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This seriously is one of my favorite anime scenes ever. In an anime that's been 99% diluted for the five-year-old-Americans that get targeted by most of Funimation's rehashings, an antagonist finally has the idea of just punching someone straight in the dick. I saw this movie when I was like 12 and it was the best thing ever.

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