would you play 1 and 2 drop creatures or keep those turns primarily focused on ETB tapped lands and small removal?Speaking my language. I was thinking some Mardu Midrange deck that was Heavy Red/BLackYeah same. I just pre-ordered some Mardu cards, though. I know I want to play Rabblemaster and Stormbreath Dragon. The rest is up in the air, but I wouldn't mind having the Butcher card in my Rabblemaster deck.I have no clue what the hell I am going to play this Standard season. It will involve Rabblemaster though.
with a white splash in order to play butcher and Elspeth. Don't know which 1 or 2 drops I'd run in this shell but my curve would be Rabblemaster > Butcher > Sarkhan or Stormbreath > Elspeth.
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I posted it already in this thread somewhere. It's basically just rabble red, but it looked much better then Tom Ross's deck(which was posted the same day).
[deck]4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Akroan Crusader
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Mogis's Warhound
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Hall of Triumph
4 Dragon Mantle
1 Coordinated Assault
4 Titan's Strength
2 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
20 Mountains[/deck]
[deck]4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Akroan Crusader
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Mogis's Warhound
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Hall of Triumph
4 Dragon Mantle
1 Coordinated Assault
4 Titan's Strength
2 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
20 Mountains[/deck]
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Beatdown is hard, though.
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I was thinking of his creature base except -4 Warhound, +4 Monastery SwiftspearI honestly think Todd Anderson made the best red deck that I've seen so far.
Here's Todd's list:
[deck]
Creatures (24)
4 Akroan Crusader
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Mogis's Warhound
Lands (20)
20 Mountain
Spells (16)
4 Dragon Mantle
1 Coordinated Assault
2 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Titan's Strength
1 Hall of Triumph
Sideboard
2 Jeering Instigator
3 Eidolon of the Great Revel
1 Coordinated Assault
4 Magma Spray
4 Searing Blood
1 Peak Eruption
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Damn, I forgot Peak Eruption is still Standard legal (I've only been playing it sometimes in Modern).I was thinking of his creature base except -4 Warhound, +4 Monastery SwiftspearI honestly think Todd Anderson made the best red deck that I've seen so far.
Here's Todd's list:
[deck]
Creatures (24)
4 Akroan Crusader
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Mogis's Warhound
Lands (20)
20 Mountain
Spells (16)
4 Dragon Mantle
1 Coordinated Assault
2 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Titan's Strength
1 Hall of Triumph
Sideboard
2 Jeering Instigator
3 Eidolon of the Great Revel
1 Coordinated Assault
n4 Magma Spray
4 Searing Blood
1 Peak Eruption
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Ooh....that's definitely going in my sideboard.
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Could go full 20/20/20 again. Haven't really seen that sort of setup since Scars/Inn red sligh with Berzerker and Shrine and Koth.
[deck]
Creatures - 20
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Akroan Crusader
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
Artifacts - 1
1 Hall of Triumph
Spells - 20
4 Dragon Mantle
4 Titan's Strength
4 Lightning Strike
2 Coordinated Assault
4 Stoke the Flames
2 Hordeling Outburst
Land - 19
19 Mountain
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So it's really 20/21/19, but 4x Dragon Mantle should allow us to skimp on one land.
[deck]
Creatures - 20
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Akroan Crusader
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
Artifacts - 1
1 Hall of Triumph
Spells - 20
4 Dragon Mantle
4 Titan's Strength
4 Lightning Strike
2 Coordinated Assault
4 Stoke the Flames
2 Hordeling Outburst
Land - 19
19 Mountain
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So it's really 20/21/19, but 4x Dragon Mantle should allow us to skimp on one land.
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Drown in Sorrow is going to be devastating early in the new format.
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Yes, this is mainly why I wouldn't want to leave home without a couple of Hall of Triumphs in these mono-red aggro lists.Drown in Sorrow is going to be devastating early in the new format.
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So happy for this.Anyone hyped by arc lightning? It's basically just a flames of the firebrand reprint, but I've always liked the card and early in formats, it's found it's way into my maindeck at times.
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[deck]
Creatures - 26
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Valley Dasher
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Prophetic Flamespeaker
4 Fanatic of Mogis
Spells - 12
4 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
1 Arc Lightning
2 Hordeling Outburst
1 Hall of Triumph
Land - 22
22 Mountain
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[deck]
Creatures - 26
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Valley Dasher
4 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Prophetic Flamespeaker
4 Fanatic of Mogis
Spells - 12
4 Lightning Strike
4 Stoke the Flames
1 Arc Lightning
2 Hordeling Outburst
1 Hall of Triumph
Land - 22
22 Mountain
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It's good against Courser, scrumpy against Caryatid. I'm not for nor against it.So am I the only person that likes Frenzied Goblin?
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I like it for an all-in-red strategy that wants more than 12 or 16 one-drops.So am I the only person that likes Frenzied Goblin?
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Yes. I saw it while going through the whole spoiler and was pretty excited.Anyone hyped by arc lightning? It's basically just a flames of the firebrand reprint, but I've always liked the card and early in formats, it's found it's way into my maindeck at times.
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I figure opponents are usually too scared of combat tricks to block with Caryatid regardless (we have two 3/2 for 2CMC anyways), and I fully except more than half the decks early on using the Caryatid/Courser combo. Preventing a Siege Rhino, Brimaz, or any other tricky three drops from blocking should be value.It's good against Courser, scrumpy against Caryatid. I'm not for nor against it.So am I the only person that likes Frenzied Goblin?
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Best deck in the format:
[deck]4 Eidolon of Blossoms
3 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
4 Nyx Weaver
3 Brain Maggot
3 Doomwake Giant
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Sylvan Caryatid
3 Murderous Cut
1 Whip of Erebos
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Elvish Mystic
2 Herald of Torment
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
4 Temple of Malady
4 Opulent Palace
2 Temple of Mystery
2 Forest
2 Swamp
2 Llanowar Wastes
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth[/deck]
[deck]4 Eidolon of Blossoms
3 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
4 Nyx Weaver
3 Brain Maggot
3 Doomwake Giant
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Sylvan Caryatid
3 Murderous Cut
1 Whip of Erebos
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Elvish Mystic
2 Herald of Torment
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
4 Temple of Malady
4 Opulent Palace
2 Temple of Mystery
2 Forest
2 Swamp
2 Llanowar Wastes
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth[/deck]
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You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.
Beatdown is hard, though.
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Beatdown is hard, though.
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This looks interesting. I may have to give this a whirl and see how I like it.Best deck in the format:
4 Eidolon of Blossoms
3 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
4 Nyx Weaver
3 Brain Maggot
3 Doomwake Giant
4 Courser of Kruphix
4 Sylvan Caryatid
3 Murderous Cut
1 Whip of Erebos
2 Pharika, God of Affliction
4 Elvish Mystic
2 Herald of Torment
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
4 Temple of Malady
4 Opulent Palace
2 Temple of Mystery
2 Forest
2 Swamp
2 Llanowar Wastes
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
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You have light disruption, go over every other midrange deck, laugh at elspeth, and are mostly 2 color which is relevant or beating aggro. The deck as posted is rough. Playing 3 cuts and zero downfall is just dumb. Not playing sultai charm is also questionable, but the overarching plan is amazing assuming control is as bad as we think it is.
Potential sideboard:
4 Nylea's Disciple
1 Whip of Erebos
3 Counterspells
5 Hand disruption spells
1 Soul of Innistrad
1 Agent of Erebos
The other option is adding some sort of hornet queen package to the board to sidestep back to nature instead of trying to grind through it with disruption.
Potential sideboard:
4 Nylea's Disciple
1 Whip of Erebos
3 Counterspells
5 Hand disruption spells
1 Soul of Innistrad
1 Agent of Erebos
The other option is adding some sort of hornet queen package to the board to sidestep back to nature instead of trying to grind through it with disruption.
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Beatdown is hard, though.
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Instead of the Deathdealer in my Abzan aggro, what do you think about 3 Heir of the Wilds in its place?
1G
Deathtouch
Ferocious — Whenever Heir of the Wilds attacks, if you control a creature with power 4 or greater, Heir of the Wilds gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
2/2
Decent chance of becoming 3/3, with Sorin it's a respectable 4/3 Deathtouch Lifelink, easy to cast, works good as a removal if needed.
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Deathtouch
Ferocious — Whenever Heir of the Wilds attacks, if you control a creature with power 4 or greater, Heir of the Wilds gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
2/2
Decent chance of becoming 3/3, with Sorin it's a respectable 4/3 Deathtouch Lifelink, easy to cast, works good as a removal if needed.
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I have SOME of them sitting on my desk, I still have two more boxes to go through to find the rest.I was able to get a case of ultra pro pro mattes for about 30 shipped.What kind did you get? Also, I drafted your cube in one of my videos.
Did you ever get a chance to look for any of the cards I'm missing? I'm itching to draft this thing IRL
Also, link to the video?
I posted links to my Youtube channel over in the Cube forum. I'm at work otherwise I'd link them to ya.
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Oh, Suga, I know it isn't an anthem, but I'm also a pretty big fan of Pennon Blade for swarm-y decks.
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