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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:47 pm

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:48 pm

Pics.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Alex » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:49 pm

Ugh, have to catch a flight to Boston in a few hours to go visit with some family. The only good thing about being back in Massachusetts is that Voodoo Glow Skulls will be playing in Cambridge tomorrow night and I've got tickets.

Even so, ugh...Massholes.
fuck you too :stubborn:
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Postby DerWille » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:50 pm

To everyone on PyroRed; I assume you we're running 2 Flames of the Firebrand? We could switch those to Annihilating Fire to help with the Devotion Red semi-mirror; and the card isn't horrific:
- kills x/3s instantly; there's a few relevant ones
- exiles Phoenix, Reckoner, Voice of Resurgence
- go upstairs for 3 at instant speed

The other alternatives are main decking Firefist Strikers to help get past Reckoner, or maybe Goblin Shortcutter if we think Firefist would be unreliable in this kind of deck; eg. -2 Flames, +2 Shortcutter; or -2 Flames, -1 Hammer, -1 Chandra; +4 FFS
Why is exiling Reckoner so important? He doesn't have any built in recursion or bonuses when dying like the other two.

I'd definitely keep the hammers main.
Against Reckoner Red I think I'd rather cut down on some number of Shock and Flames of the Firebrand for Goblin Shortcutters. I've been noticing that this deck doesn't commit to the field as much so an inefficient solution for reckoners is to ping them with Chandra's +1. If Pyromancer or Firedrinker is on the field, they'll die, but outside of that, you're generally golden. Multiple reckoners can be a pain though, but on the upside, if they attack with them, you can race them.

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Postby DroppinSuga » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:52 pm

Anyways, big thanks to Khaos for the cards! All I need is a few more cards and my PyroRed deck will be ready.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:53 pm

Craig wescoe on Purphorous:

I'm not surprised this one is the highest of the five gods. He is strong and will see play. I'm hesitant to Fork out $20 for him though. He is not ten times as good as his hammer, so if you feel big things about this guy, I'd recommend investing in 40 of his hammers instead of a play set of him, unless of course you just want to play with him. Then go crazy.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby rcwraspy » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:53 pm

Ugh, have to catch a flight to Boston in a few hours to go visit with some family. The only good thing about being back in Massachusetts is that Voodoo Glow Skulls will be playing in Cambridge tomorrow night and I've got tickets.

Even so, ugh...Massholes.
fuck you too :stubborn:
I grew up in New Bedford. Trust me, its
the last place I ever wanted to go back to.
Yeah i don't really blame you on that one. I grew up in MetroWest so nothing to complain about.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:57 pm

You'll have Kamahl as a guest on your stream talking about 3-color devotion interations.
Make this happen.
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Postby Alex » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:58 pm

See, when you say MetroWest, I immediately think of Orlando, which has a MetroWest area.

This is how imaginary of a place Massachusetts has become to me.

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Postby Alex » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:59 pm

You'll have Kamahl as a guest on your stream talking about 3-color devotion interations.
Make this happen.
Somebody would have to coerce me into not screaming "YOU'RE A great card analyst" every time he talks.

Of course, I'm sure nobody would try.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:59 pm

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11404

Just read the whole article, wescoe's fucking funny.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:01 am

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11404

Just read the whole article, wescoe's fucking funny.
The nice thing about TCGPlayer articles as that there is very seldom some kind of hidden agenda. They let SCG do all of the propaganda work for them, so they can still do inflated preorder prices, but then once the set comes out they let their pros tell the truth about cards instead of continuing to try and sell them at overt prices.

Also Craig Wescoe is one of my favorite currently active pro players. Dude is funny as shit.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:09 am

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11404

Just read the whole article, wescoe's fucking funny.
Expected more WW blathering. Hm.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:10 am

I love me some wescoe, though. Dude is the reason I played White Weenie all last season.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:15 am

I played white weenie because I'm racist

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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:19 am

I played Black Panthers.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:28 am

Anyways, big thanks to Khaos for the cards! All I need is a few more cards and my PyroRed deck will be ready.
What else are you looking for? I did acquire some new Red goodies and I am going to FNM tomorrow. The fools and their Red cards shall soon be parted. :flame:
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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:35 am

Chandra's Phoenix x4
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Chandra, Thunder Thighs x290128039182
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:40 am

I love me some wescoe, though. Dude is the reason I played White Weenie all last season.
He's responsible for helping my find my first love when I started playing somewhat competitive Magic: Mono White Landfall w/Stoneforge. I knew I was onto something big when I opened a Stoneforge Mystic and a foil Basilisk Collar in my very first Worldwake pack. A few weeks later, I saw his decktech for his "Jund-hoser list," and I truly felt that this guy knew exactly what I wanted to do, but he could do it better and faster than me. I used his list to analyze the weaknesses in my build, and in the process, I learned so much about metagaming than I ever have before.

I actually alternated between Mono Red and Mono White for the whole
Shards/Zen block (and also Zen/Scars), and through following Wescoe, I discovered the Red Mage himself, Patrick Sullivan. Both of these players helped mold me into the early competitive Magic player I was back then. To this day, I'm still astounded by some of the thing they pull off, like Wescoe's PT win and P-Sully's commentating/deck bulding/amazingly informative decktechs, etc.

Needless to say, meeting Craig Wescoe and Patrick Sullivan at GP Miami was almost a dream come true. I rarely put people on a pedestal, but these men I owe a lot of respect and gratitude towards. They were extremely nice and just...real. Patrick Sullivan even signed my Red Mana Deck Box for me (which is where my current Standard deck has resided ever since). Gods bless Craig Wescoe for not actually trying to escape as I completely fanboy'd out on him. It was enough just to meet them, but more important for me, I was able to tell them, "Thank you, for what you have done for this game[
/i]."

Tl;Dr - I met Craig Wescoe and probably terrified him. But he was totally cool.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:43 am

Chandra's Phoenix x4
Lightning Strike x2
Magma Jet x2
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Fanatic of Mogis x3
Chandra, Thunder Thighs x290128039182
I'll let you know what I get tomorrow. Shit, I'll even buy you the Lightning Strikes and Magma Jets broski. I also have another Mogis for you since I pulled a foil the other day.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:46 am

Chandra's Phoenix x4
Lightning Strike x2
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Firedrinker Satyr x2
Fanatic of Mogis x3
Chandra, Thunder Thighs x290128039182
Disregard my last post. I'm sending you everything on your list besides Chandras.
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Postby Alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:46 am

Tl;Dr - I met Craig Wescoe and probably terrified him. But he was totally cool.
I did the same thing the first time I met John Finkel. He was like "I don't think I've ever met someone who grins so much." And I was like "Yeah I think my face might be stuck like this..."

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:48 am

I forgot that I had store credit form my abysmal 3-2 performance at FNM XD
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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:50 am

Chandra's Phoenix x4
Lightning Strike x2
Magma Jet x2
Firedrinker Satyr x2
Fanatic of Mogis x3
Chandra, Thunder Thighs x290128039182
Disregard my last post. I'm sending you everything on your list besides Chandras.
You are going to receive the greatest blow job of your life. I plan on going to a few FNMs and hopefully getting some store credit to put towards Chandra and Mutavaults.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:51 am

Tl;Dr - I met Craig Wescoe and probably terrified him. But he was totally cool.
I did the same thing the first time I met John Finkel. He was like "I don't think I've ever met someone who grins so much." And I was like "Yeah I think my face might be stuck like this..."
Dude! I was doing that too. SO much so, that the muscles in the back of my skull actually hurt.

That ever happen to you?

Anyways, Wescoe says to me, "Wow, you are really excited, aren't you?"

I was like, "Fuck yeah, man. If it weren't for you, I would'
ve found a foothold in competitive Magic to save my life!"

Also, he's waaaaaay shorter than you would actually think he is. I'm 5'4" and I felt like I towered over him. But whatevs, he may be short, but he'll kick anyone's ass in this Clan with a goddamn Steppe Lynx.
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:52 am

Chandra's Phoenix x4
Lightning Strike x2
Magma Jet x2
Firedrinker Satyr x2
Fanatic of Mogis x3
Chandra, Thunder Thighs x290128039182
Disregard my last post. I'm sending you everything on your list besides Chandras.
You are going to receive the greatest blow job of your life.
MIssion accomplished.

Nah,
man. It's all good, redbro. Don't mention it. ;-)
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:56 am

This clan is the best

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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:57 am

Is anyone else excited that hockey is back?
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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:58 am

This clan is the best
I agree. You don't see this a lot in the Magic world. When I was heavy into Heroclix I had a great group of online friends that helped each other out, much like this clan. I can't even count the amount of figures I sent people just to help them out or cheer them up.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:02 am

Once I have my exam finished, I'll put all my cards up on deckbox so you dudes can borrow them if need be. I play on MTGO exclusively these days, and the occasional weekend Modern tournament at my LGS. Seems a shame to have all these cards derping around in boxes.

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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:07 am

This clan is the best
I completely agree. You guys are like a weird, dysfunctional family to me. Which says some fucked up shit abut me...
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Postby Alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:10 am

Tl;Dr - I met Craig Wescoe and probably terrified him. But he was totally cool.
I did the same thing the first time I met John Finkel. He was like "I don't think I've ever met someone who grins so much." And I was like "Yeah I think my face might be stuck like this..."
Dude! I was doing that too. SO much so, that the muscles in the back of my skull actually hurt.

That ever happen to
you?

Anyways, Wescoe says to me, "Wow, you are really excited, aren't you?"

I was like, "Fuck yeah, man. If it weren't for you, I would've found a foothold in competitive Magic to save my life!"

Also, he's waaaaaay shorter than you would actually think he is. I'm 5'4" and I felt like I towered over him. But whatevs, he may be short, but he'll kick anyone's ass in this Clan with a goddamn Steppe Lynx.
Funny enough, he's the only one (Finkel) I've ever really been starstruck by. I think it might be because a lot of the other pros I've met from across the table, and I am able to humanize them as opponents much easier. Like I have always been a HUGE Patrick Chapin fan, but the first time I ever met him was at GP Orlando, where he gave me my only day 1 loss. Turns out I couldn't beat Whipflare into Liliana of the Veil.

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Postby windstrider » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:12 am

I think the more accurate statement is that it says a lot of fucked up shiate about all of us. :D
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:12 am

Just wanted to pop in and say Fate & Nuwen your B/r Aggro brew is solid and I am a fan. Was toying with various Rakdos Midrange decks (probably bad) but sleeved up your deck and after a few games against my brother piloting Esper control I'm sold.

Question though, my meta is normally midrange decks mixed with bad brews that skew midrange. What is the plan exactly pre and post board. I expect Smiters Reckoners and Stormbreath to run rampant around here. Pre board I'm assuming it is business as usual. Beat them as fast as you can. Game 2 board in removal to play a grindier game?
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Postby Link » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:14 am

I think a name for nuwens deck is "doesn't die to doom blade"

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Postby Alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:15 am

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=117130#p117130:1xms7zsy]NerdBoyWonder » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:12 pm[/url:1xms7zsy]":1xms7zsy]Just wanted to pop in and say Fate & Nuwen your B/r Aggro brew is solid and I am a fan. Was toying with various Rakdos Midrange decks (probably bad) but sleeved up your deck and after a few games against my brother piloting Esper control I'm sold.

Question though, my meta is normally midrange decks mixed with bad brews that skew midrange. What is the plan exactly pre and post board. I expect Smiters Reckoners and Stormbreath to run rampant around here. Pre board I'm assuming it is business as usual. Beat them as fast as you can. Game 2 board in removal to play a grindier game?[/quote:1xms7zsy]
Put Desecration Demons in the board and pair them with spot removal. Midrange decks can't beat that.

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Postby windstrider » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:16 am

But, joking aside, this clan helped me through an exceptionally rough time in my life. That means a lot to me.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:16 am

Is anyone else excited that hockey is back?
ohai im from canada
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:17 am

Tl;Dr - I met Craig Wescoe and probably terrified him. But he was totally cool.
I did the same thing the first time I met John Finkel. He was like "I don't think I've ever met someone who grins so much." And I was like "Yeah I think my face might be stuck like this..."
Dude! I was doing that too. SO much so, that the muscles in the back of my skull actually hurt.

That ever happen to
you?

Anyways, Wescoe says to me, "Wow, you are really excited, aren't you?"

I was like, "Fuck yeah, man. If it weren't for you, I would've found a foothold in competitive Magic to save my life!"

Also, he's waaaaaay shorter than you would actually think he is. I'm 5'4" and I felt like I towered over him. But whatevs, he may be short, but he'll kick anyone's ass in this Clan with a goddamn Steppe Lynx.
10/10 would read again.

Weird hearing fanboyism over a white mage.

I feel it, though.
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Postby Link » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:18 am

g2 board in doom blades dreadbores over lightning strikes jets (pending their line up ofc) and crush them with business as usual

gw literally is a joke mu


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