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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:22 pm

Pretty sure I am not wrong about this but a guy said he is having issues with flooding out but isn't running Magma Jet so I suggest it in place of his 2 of Maaka, 1 of Doom Blade & 1 of his Exava's.

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Postby Helios » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:45 pm

Z, I agree with dropping Renounce the Guilds- it underperformed for me yesterday, and hitting their Mountain is probably devastating. Wear // Tear hitting Whip vs. black & Junk is big game though.

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:26 pm

I posted my States Results in the Devotion Red thread, but I'll post it here too for whoever is interested:
States Results
This is what I took to States for a 19th place finish out of 169 players:

[deck=Khaos's 19th Place States List]
Creatures 24
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Ash Zealot
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Fanatic of Mogis

Goodstuff 3
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Hammer of Purphoros

Burn 10
2 Shock
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet

Land 23
1 Mutavault
22 Mountain

Sideboard 15
2 Burning Earth
3 Skullcrack
1 Hammer of Purphoros
1 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Act of Treason
3 Mizzium Mortars
2 Frostburn Weird
[/deck]

There isn't much to tell about the deck that hasn't already been explained in the threads. It just does what it does, and then either grinds out a win with Chandra or ends it with a Fanatic.

I'll attempt to explain my
sideboarding. I actually expected to see a lot of Esper, G/W Aggro, Mono Red Aggro, and G/B Midrange. The plan for the aggro matchups was pretty simple: take out my 8x1-drops and replace them with “anti-aggro package,” consisting of 2xWeirds, 3xAct of Treason, and 3xMizzium Mortars.

For the G/W matchup, I wanted to take out the Hammer and replace it with a Dragon since 3/3 Golems are outclassed pretty easily, and they pretty much cannot answer a Stormbreath Dragon (much less a Monstrous one). Everything else is pretty much textbook “sword-and-shield” manuevers – just play defense, form a stonewall with First Strikers as you burn away their dudes, and nip away with Phoenixes.

For Esper, I just wanted to take out 2x Fanatic of Mogis and replace it with 2x Burning Earth. Additionally, I swapped Shocks for Weirds, and swapped out 2xLightning Strike and 2xMagma Jet for 3xSkullcrack and 1xHammer of Purphoros. You're a pretty big underdog once they resolve Elspeth, so you need to just go in fast.


For the G/B Midrange and other fatty-driven decks, like R/G Monsters, I just wanted a bunch of Act of Treasons. Play as the Beatdown and steal their big dude for the win.

I don't want to bore you guys with major details so I'm just going to give you “short and sweet” version.

Round 1 VS UWR Control w/Guttersnipe – Win, 2-1

I actually lost Game 1 when he landed a Guttersnipe and I didn't kill it. He actually dealt me 11 damage on Turn 4 by casting a Boros Charm and a Lightning Strike. Game 2 was rather unexciting since all I had to do was kill Guttersnipe on sight and keep attacking, but in Game 3 I resolved a Burning Earth and just watched him bleed out. Card is so good. I didn't even have to try to win – the card did it for me. I now know how Thragtusk players feel.

Round 2 VS G/W Aggro – Win, 2-1

I aggro'd out in Game 1 (surprisingly), but in Game 2 was such a clusterfuck with Voice of Resurgence and Boros Reckoner both on the field. After trading some early
blows, the board stalled and the game degenerated into a “draw,go” match until my Phoenix got him so low that he was forced to make a move. That move was called Unflinching Courage, and it allowed a Voice token to trample through for some exactsies. Game 3 was textbook defense as I removed his guys with Burn, walled-up with First Strikers, landed a Dragon, and used Act of Treason on a Smiter to nail for lethal.

Round 3 VS Esper – Loss, 1-2

Man, Game 1 was such an epic blowout on my end. I had to mulligan to 5 while he lands a Turn 3 Ashiok, followed by a Turn 4 Jace, Architect of Thought. He passes on Turn 5. I play a Fanatic with an Ash Zealot on the field, hoping to burn for 3, but he play Far//Away to get rid of both creatures with the devotion trigger on the stack, netting me ZERO damage. Turn 6 is the coming of Elspeth and I have no chance of winning at this point with no presence and no hand. I win Game 2, but in Game 3 I fail to punch through Elspeth's Army, eventually succumbing to 6
Soldiers backed by an Emblem.

Round 4 VS U/B Devotion – Win, 2-1

I won Game 1 easily enough, but Game 2 was strange. I failed to improve on the 2 lands in my opener and he starts milling the shit out of me with Ashiok, which is where all of my lands went – to exile. Dude actually ultimates Ashiok, but he's been stuck on 3 lands himself, which allows me to draw Mountain, Mountain, and Burning Earth. I resolve the Burning Earth and watch his life total start to tick down as he cast some kill spells on my freshly drawn guys. He plays Desecration Demon and I topdeck Act of Treason it, but it's not enough. A second Desecration Demon finishes me off. I show him the power of the haste in Game 3 to take the match when I Act of Treasoned my own Cackler to deal the final 2 points of damage.

Round 5 VS U/W Control – Loss, 1-2

I was on the draw Game 1 and managed to kill him, despite him resolving an Eslpeth. In Games 2 and 3, however, Jace and Elspeth team up to make aggro
efforts look childish. Game 2 involved Jace going ultimate, resulting in him stealing my girl, Chandra. I felt like a chump. Game 3 was close, but since I had to mulligan to 5, I ran out of critical gas.

Round 6 VS Boros Beatdown, Win 2-1

Not much to tell here, unfortunately. I really believe that this match was primarily a skill battle, since we both were playing the Reckoner sub-game. In fact, I probably should have lost this whole match because in Game 3, he follows up casting a Fiendlsayer Paladin with an Ajani, Caller of the Pride, giving the Paladin a +1/+1 counter. This was bad for me, since I had him at very low life and I needed to keep applying pressure. I was winning the race in the air with a Phoenix, but my lead wouldn't hold out if he even gained the slightest amount of life. And not to mention, that Ajani could turn just about anything into a game-winning threat. So, I did the best thing I could think of – I played Mizzium Mortars on my Reckoner to deal the
Paladin lethal damage. This is a great plan when it involves a Shock or Lightning Strike, but you cannot – I repeat, CANNOT- play Mortars on your own guy. How we both missed that is beyond me, but it was enough to put the match in my favor. It is what it is I guess. This would also not be the only time I got lucky in the tournament.

Round 7 VS ???, Win 2-0

My opponent is late and is awarded a Game Loss. When he arrives, he looks at the match sheet, concedes, and then drops to go play in the Triple Worldwake Draft. He later tells me that he was playing U/W Master of Waves with Sphinx's Revelations. Hooray for luck, I suppose.

Round 8 VS RDW, Win 2-1

I come out of the gates swinging to smash him Game 1, but Game 2 was a completely different story. He only sides in 3 cards and I quickly find out what they were. He keeps me from reaching 3 land by playing back-to-back Peak Eruptions while he beats my face in with a Cackler. To add insult to injury, he finishes me off with
a third Peak Eruption for lethal damage. Game 3 was another test of combat skill while we both stonewalled the ground with Reckoners. Three to be exact, and on both sides. What are the odds? However, I landed my Phoenix first to start the air race and by the time he found one of his own, I had enough burned chained together from my Magma Jets to take the match.

Final Record: 6-2

When the dust cleared, 9th through 20th were all tied with 18 Game Win Points. The Game Win Percentages were used to determine rankings, and I was less than a point below 14th -18th. Even though I got 19th place, I feel very satisfied with the event as a whole. For one, I beat my personal record from last year - 34th place out of 200-something players. Two, I still feel like I “Top 16'd.” Third, I played something that I truly felt comfortable with. I stood by my convictions and played the deck I wanted to play, the way I wanted to play it. And lastly, I felt like I had mentally and physically
prepared myself by more or less following Z's advice from his “Preparing for Big Events” article. While most of what he says is straight common sense, he is absolutely right – there is no substitute for sleep and nutrition. I skipped FNM, strip clubs, and booze-chugging in order to get 7 hours of solid rest. I made a lunchbox complete with sammiches, apples, 5-Hour Energies, water bottles and gatorade, peanuts, protein bars, cigarettes, and ibuprofen. The extra time it took me to prepare actually saved me time, stress, and money later on as I didn't have to rush out and order something between rounds from an overpriced local joint. I stayed mentally focused and energized all freaking day, much to the amazement of my testing party. And despite having to piss like a racehorse between every single round and fighting to get into the bathroom, I had a blast at States.

9/10 – would do it all over again.

Deck Notes:

Knowing what I know now after the event, I would
definitely like to make some changes to the deck. For one, Hammer of Purphoros, while good, didn't deliver the goods for me. I've considered removing it. Shock also underperformed, and I'm starting to think it's an all-or-nothing card. Act of Treason is a great card, but I would consider cutting it down to two copies to make room for Peak Eruption in the sideboard.

The 22xMountain and 1xMutavault combination worked great for me. There was only one game where the Mutavault kept me off of a Turn 3 Reckoner and I'm okay with that. In other games, my lone Mutavault did some work, but I never really want to see more than 1. Maybe I'm just weird like that?

Frostburn Weird was a soldier. I think he stays in for the time being.

I've also considered moving the maindeck around a bit to accommodate 2 dragons. I'd probably have to up my land count for this and I think the 22x Mountain and 2xMutavault configuration seems fine. Testing will have to be done to confirm how effective
this is.

Overall, the deck performed as expected and I made us of every card in the sideboard.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:27 pm

Khaos, you disappoint me.
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:36 pm

Khaos, you disappoint me.
How so? My bad grammar and rambling sentence structure?
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:37 pm

Also...I got so drunk last night. All I know is that I was found passed out in my recliner blasting Trivium. I don't remember anything after leaving an Applebees.
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That chick dressed as Eternal Witness can Regrowth me all day long.

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Postby Yarpus » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:42 pm

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Postby Helios » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:14 pm

States report in pyrored thread: viewtopic.php?p=123626#p123626

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:20 pm

States report in pyrored thread: viewtopic.php?p=123626#p123626
Nicely done, bro. :smileup:

Now read mine. :stubborn: :angel:

edit: I saw the "thanks." This means you read it. Well played, sir. Well played.
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Postby Helios » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:23 pm

Actually just finished reading it redbro. Props on your damn fine day of magic. :smileup:
I'm considering doing the 1 Mutavault plan as well, just because I'm paranoid or drawing two.

Oh yeah, and I got a Japanese Stormbreath, an extra Chandra, a playset of Foil Mogis, and any other red cards you folks could possibly need if anyone would like to trade me some Sacred Foundries.

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:28 pm

Actually just finished reading it redbro. Props on your damn fine day of magic. :smileup:

I'm considering doing the 1 Mutavault plan as well, just because I'm paranoid or drawing two.
Thanks, man. :D

Mutavault is the bee's knees, but there are times where drawing more than 1 in the early game can be bad. I think 2 is actually fine in YP$ builds because you can always play Peezy on turn 2 with a just a mountain and a mutavault.
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Postby Helios » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:31 pm

You can, but you rarely do- I'll only play it without mana up against decks that have no way to interact with it. Mostly just want to hit Phoenix and Ashley on curve, always.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:31 pm

If honestly play three if not for sideboarding Reckdaddy.
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Postby Helios » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:32 pm

Yea I'm just paranoid. Temple coming in tapped caused me more problems than the 2 Vaults...part of the reason I punted those games against esper was that I couldn't play Ashley on turn 2 due to temple (which in no way means that temple is bad. Scrying is fucking delightful).
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:33 pm

Oh man, the loot I got yesterday was sick:

Foil Command Tower, Promo Lighting Greaves, Foiled Grand Abolisher, Foiled and Autographed Duress, and Foiled Thundermaw Hellkite is what Kaalia got.

Modern Goblins got a playset of foiled Foundry Street Denizens, a promo Teetering Peaks and a foil Spikeshot Elder.

I got a playset of foil Mogis and Peak Eruptions, and also a foil Burning Earth and foil Japanese Hammer, for Standard.

Jaya got a foil Charmbreaker Devils.
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Postby rcwraspy » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:38 pm

I just posted my states results in the Devotion Red thread also. I read yours, Khaos - nicely done!

I was 4-2 heading into round 7 and was ranked 16. My breakers were probably good enough to make me the only X-2 in the top 8, but I punted the last game of round 7. Read all about raspy's stupid plays in the Devo Red thread.
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Postby zemanjaski » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:49 pm

Remember when someone wanted to archive this thread at 300 pages?

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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:54 pm

Remember when someone wanted to archive this thread at 300 pages?

Shame.
I say we never archive this thread. Let's make it the biggest one on DTR.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:41 pm

Actually just finished reading it redbro. Props on your damn fine day of magic. :smileup:
I'm considering doing the 1 Mutavault plan as well, just because I'm paranoid or drawing two.

Oh yeah, and I got a Japanese Stormbreath, an extra Chandra, a playset of Foil Mogis, and any other red cards you folks could possibly need if anyone would like to trade me some Sacred Foundries.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:41 pm

Remember when someone wanted to archive this thread at 300 pages?

Shame.
I say we never archive this thread. Let's make it the biggest one on DTR.
The GRRRRR thread is pretty big, but that's a hidden thread so it doesn't count.
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Postby Khaospawn » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:49 pm

Where is it hidden?
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:54 pm

Where is it hidden?
There's a GRRRRR subforum that's also hidden. The thread is located in there. It's basically just another Blathering thread though.
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:01 am

I see. Rubbing elbows with the DTR old-schoolers has its perks, eh?
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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:02 am

Also, DS, you get that second round of cards yet I sent?
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Postby DroppinSuga » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:04 am

Also, DS, you get that second round of cards yet I sent?
I have not. I'm hoping to see them tomorrow. I may actually go to FNM this week if they come.
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Postby Yarpus » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:27 am

I'd probably turn my attention to Rakdos Midrange. Not sure if you can reliably play Reckoner in RB decklist - manabase is just not here yet. But if for some reason you can: together with some spicy removal, Read the Bones, Rakdos Keyrune and maybe Chandras it might be a thing.
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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:30 am

The Mono Black deck from the top 8 has got to be the best shell. That deck is great.

And Underworld Connections is SO much better than Read the Bones.
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Postby Yarpus » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:37 am

Well, I agree about that when you go into Black-focused deck. My thought was "burn handles most of the cards that are immune to black removal". Having maindeck Doom Blade-Mortars-Dreadbore gives you an answer to nearly everything.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:57 am

Anyone have any Boros Reckoner's that they don't need? :embarrass:
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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:24 am

I kept playing against a bunch of Pack Rats and Underworld Connections in the 2-mans and wondering what they were trying to do. Either they weren't being piloted correctly or they were bricking on top decks, because I had no trouble with them.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:39 am

They can't really leverage their life against you and a lot of your cards get value against their 1-for-1 removal (YP, Phoenix).
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Postby Yarpus » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:50 am

Is it time for Electrickery?
It can win games against:
- Mono White (all their 1-drops have 1 toughness, Imposing Sovereign)
- Mono Blue (lots of their creatures have 1 toughness. it also nullfiies Master of Waves tokens)
- Mono Green-RG (kills dorks and Voyaging Satyr)
- kills Elspeth tokens
- Stomps YP tactics and sheningans.

If we'd have some space in SB for two of these - I think it could help in many matchups. Could be even maindeckable but here comes the non-flexxibility of a card.
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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:14 am

I've put 2 Electrickeries in my sideboard.

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Postby Calamity » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:15 am

I kept playing against a bunch of Pack Rats and Underworld Connections in the 2-mans and wondering what they were trying to do. Either they weren't being piloted correctly or they were bricking on top decks, because I had no trouble with them.
I ran into (and through) a deck like that in a 2 man the other day too. I was so confused, it was pretty much a free win. The poor guy played a lifebane zombie (in game 2 mind you) and saw my hand full of burn and then i topdeck chandra and +1'd to kill the zombie, then he kept playing more lifebanes and just died.

I'd also consider putting electrickery in my paper SB if this master of waves deck gets popular at my LGS. Not sure about online yet, haven't been on in a few days
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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:21 am

The only decks I've had trouble with (I'm on Boros, no Pyromancer) is the GW combat trix deck (Boon Satyr, Selesnya Charm, Unflinching Courage, Voice of Resurgence) and the Master of Waves deck before I put in Electrickery.

There was a super durdly hexproof deck that crushed me in an 8-man, not sure if that will catch on since he only had 12 creatures (Fleecemane, the hexproof Elf and the Witchstalker). He managed to draw all of them vs. me, even after I board wiped him with Mortars.

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