--- Dies To Removal --- MTGO Clan

[imopen2]

I caved an bought the hexproof deck. It cost $220 from card kingdom. Anything less than winning this PTQ will be a failure

[Kaitscralt]

i like the bar you set

[imopen2]

Yea. I'll let you guys know when I'm eating my 0-2 drop meal of shame at McDonald's

[Mcdonalds]

Why the fuck would you drive to my house?

[Kaitscralt]

Mdu how's the MTGO calendar looking for February

[Kaitscralt]

when are the big events

[imopen2]

the metagame moves way too fast online. I'm already playing hexproof mirror matches. ptq is in 1 week...hopefully not too many people catch on. I would hate to have people add more devours to their sides

[imopen2]

still went 4-2 tonight. beat MBD, RG monsters, RG monsters, and the mirror. lost to esper twice

[magicdownunder]

Mdu how's the MTGO calendar looking for February

I've been on break for about a week now, so I have no idea.

But:

@Kait and Open - MOCS3 Sealed Prelims on:

Feb 27, 7:00 AM
Feb 27, 3:00 PM
Feb 28, 7:00 AM
Feb 28, 3:00 PM
Mar 01, 7:00 AM
Mar 01, 3:00 PM

Win them guys (MOCS3 Final is on march same with MOCS1 though I'm the only one in clan in that event)

MOCS4 Grinding has started (Modern), so Ham I'll see you online

[hamfactorial]

It's on!

[Pedros]

I yet need to find deck I like for modern. Have green devo offline , might buy stuff I need for it online?

[magicdownunder]

It seem like DtR is taking over the player of the year race - both Pedros and Jedi_Knight are in the list as well

If we can stay in top.150 we'll all be able to play the finals.

p.s. I ****ing hate Hexproof in standard (forcing me to play cards like Far // Away)...

@kait: have you play against Z's Rw list with UW control? I really can't see the MU being even as he claims (I reckon it should be in controls favor) though a fair number of people on this forum seem to agree with him - which is kinda making me 2nd guess my opinion.

[Pedros]

Nice I didnt even know about it. You say being in top 150 gives you sth?

[Kaitscralt]

It seem like DtR is taking over the player of the year race - both Pedros and Jedi_Knight are in the list as well

If we can stay in top.150 we'll all be able to play the finals.

p.s. I ****ing hate Hexproof in standard (forcing me to play cards like Far // Away)...

@kait: have you play against Z's Rw list with UW control? I really can't see the MU being even as he claims (I reckon it should be in controls favor) though a fair number of people on this forum seem to agree with him - which is kinda making me 2nd guess my opinion.

I playtested against Zem himself and beat him 4-0

That is a small number of games to form an opinion on, although I told him a week
ago to beware UW at the GP as I eat burn decks online -- the Firedancer package makes game 1 unwinnable versus control for those decks.

[Kaitscralt]

grats on the poty race, I wish I played enough to matter in that regard

[LaZerBurn]

I got 2 QP 3-0 in an SE with ZemBurn 2-0 B Devo, 2-0 WAggro, 2-1 G/U/B mid range - Mystic, Caryatid, Courser, Poly, Gaze Of Granite, Curse Of The Swine!?

[Kaitscralt]

2 non-decks, if only my 8 mans were so giving

[hamfactorial]

I keep getting knocked out of 8-mans by burn decks in the 2nd round.

#nojustice
#thanksobama

[Elricity]

I keep getting knocked out of round 2 as the burn deck. No mutavaults yet though and I've only played twice. I'll never have the time to be a real grinder.

MDU, I was wondering myself how it was supposed to be even. Still, I do think there's a better than even possibility that satyr/searing is "better" vs UW than chains. Have you gotten a chance to test the version you were trying with the firstblades and such against UW? That definitely seems more solid.

Kait, if I can ask, were you testing against Z's list that he just posted or something more recent? I think he stated it was actually from a few days ago and it felt like he was strongly considering in the video just cutting shock entirely.

No one at my LGS plays UW and I seem to dodge it online so I never get good chances to test vs it.

[Kaitscralt]

i'm gonna jump in a season 3 prelim tonight i think

[LaZerBurn]

GL Kait

[imopen2]

I'll try to be on to moc(k) you if you are failing

[Kaitscralt]

when, not if

[Kaitscralt]

I keep getting knocked out of round 2 as the burn deck. No mutavaults yet though and I've only played twice. I'll never have the time to be a real grinder.

MDU, I was wondering myself how it was supposed to be even. Still, I do think there's a better than even possibility that satyr/searing is "better" vs UW than chains. Have you gotten a chance to test the version you were trying with the firstblades and such against UW? That definitely seems more solid.

Kait, if I can ask, were you testing against Z's list that he just posted or something more recent? I think he stated it was actually from a few days ago and it felt like he was strongly considering in the video just cutting shock entirely.

No one at my LGS plays UW and I seem to dodge it online so I
never get good chances to test vs it.

I'm testing his list from the CFB video

[Kaitscralt]

he was on with me last night, we played a couple matches but he didn't have long so I can't make a definitive statement other than I feel comfortable playing burn with my deck, won 4-0, and I had told I'm back when he first told me he was playing Boros burn at the GP to watch out for UW

we've been working on his sideboard today to try and shore up the UW match

[Elricity]

I guess I should ask then. From the UW side, what actually makes the matchup harder for you? The deck doesn't get talked about much here. Game two, when the inevitable fiendslayers and/or thunes come in, I assume either Satyr or chain has to stay in just to have a chance of dealing with them. Or is it just have 38972 haste creatures and hope to overwhelm before it all comes online?

[Kaitscralt]

creatures don't bother me. end of turn burn bothers me. skullcrack bothers me.

[magicdownunder]

I keep getting knocked out of round 2 as the burn deck. No mutavaults yet though and I've only played twice. I'll never have the time to be a real grinder.

MDU, I was wondering myself how it was supposed to be even. Still, I do think there's a better than even possibility that satyr/searing is "better" vs UW than chains. Have you gotten a chance to test the version you were trying with the firstblades and such against UW? That definitely seems more solid.

Kait, if I can ask, were you testing against Z's list that he just posted or something more recent? I think he stated it was actually from a few days ago and it felt like he was strongly considering in the video just cutting shock entirely.

No one at my LGS plays UW and I seem to dodge it online
so I never get good chances to test vs it.

I think the Fistblade version has a MUCH better UW and Bx Devotion MU (but an obv. worst aggro MU), but I haven't tested it at all (I only started playing again yesterday) I'll give it a shot later during the weekends since atm I'm just testing Rb Burn so I can farm QPs for Modern and get ready to face down Ham .

....I also need to play some limited since going in blind for mocs3 might be a bad idea....

[imopen2]

Fall of the hammer is the best
Kiora's disciple or w/e is the best
Elspeth is the best
Battlesise hoplite is the best
Wingsteed rider is the best
Gray merchant is the best

Ok you won

[Kaitscralt]

satyr into asp is still fairly unbeatable

[hamfactorial]

I keep getting knocked out of round 2 as the burn deck. No mutavaults yet though and I've only played twice. I'll never have the time to be a real grinder.

MDU, I was wondering myself how it was supposed to be even. Still, I do think there's a better than even possibility that satyr/searing is "better" vs UW than chains. Have you gotten a chance to test the version you were trying with the firstblades and such against UW? That definitely seems more solid.

Kait, if I can ask, were you testing against Z's list that he just posted or something more recent? I think he stated it was actually
from a few days ago and it felt like he was strongly considering in the video just cutting shock entirely.

No one at my LGS plays UW and I seem to dodge it online so I never get good chances to test vs it.

I think the Fistblade version has a MUCH better UW and Bx Devotion MU (but an obv. worst aggro MU), but I haven't tested it at all (I only started playing again yesterday) I'll give it a shot later during the weekends since atm I'm just testing Rb Burn so I can farm QPs for Modern and get ready to face down Ham .

....I also need to play some limited since going in blind for mocs3 might be a bad idea....

I'm prepared to fight against burn

I reviewed my game and found the spot where I took 1 damage unnecessarily, which would have let me untap with lethal in hand.

[Elricity]

creatures don't bother me. end of turn burn bothers me. skullcrack bothers me.

If it weren't for elixir of immortality, end of turn burn would still be what I was on. Esper was so easy to kill. Still remember the guy who rage quit at GP Dallas.

[Kaitscralt]

time to get funky

[imopen2]

Oh yea, voyaging satyr is the best

[Kaitscralt]

initial thought is that i'm in trouble

[Kaitscralt]

but i have done more with less

[magicdownunder]

Fall of the hammer is the best
Kiora's disciple or w/e is the best
Elspeth is the best
Battlesise hoplite is the best
Wingsteed rider is the best
Gray merchant is the best

Ok you won

tyvm (not being sarcastic) this would be my first ever limited game since BnG for the MOCS3 finals heck I'll post my pool here (I don't care if I get sniped) and with some luck with Kait or Open can help me out.

@Elec: I've played against competent UW players (i.e. other grinder who are obv. prepared for red) with burn, I think our best bets are SBD, vaults, 1-drops, Chandra, skullcrack and Toil // Trouble.

I personally don't think you can beat competent UW
with just one trick ponies since they will just play around you so you need to set-up wins, using 1 (jab), 2 (punch) for example:

Competent UW players will try and play around Skullcrack, wait for you tap-out or leave mana-open to counter - I like tapping out EoT (trying to catch them, but it usually doesn't work with skullcrack) when I have T // T in hand so I can at least punish them after woulds. Its the same with the SBD, vaults and Chandra you need to force early sweep, counters or removals with a mix of threats till you can actually hit them.

That said UW cannot possibly be an even MU....

[magicdownunder]

but i have done more with less

Beat Em!!! I think this is a good hour to play magic since its during the US timezone (less grinders).

[imopen2]

When is your event, MDU?

Post your pool here when you get it and if I'm around I'll put in my 2 cents

[Kaitscralt]

io2 QUICK do you like ug or ur better