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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:52 pm

^Agree. I would fuck up a mascot on national television.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:02 am

Pedros!

Starting the 4 color token monstrosity brews.

[deck]4 Soldier of the Pantheon
1 Herald of Anafenza
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Tymaret, the Murder King
3 Brimaz
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Purphors, God of the Forge
3 Butcher of the Horde

2 Mardu Ascendancy
1 Abzan Ascendancy
1 Spear of Heliod
2 Suspension Field

3 Mardu Charm

2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Ajani, Steadfast
1 Ajani, Mentor of Heros

2 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
1 Forest
3 Battlefield Forge
3 Caves of Koilois
1 Temple of Malice
3 Nomads Outpost
3 Mana Confluence
2 Windswept Heath
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Wooded Foothills[/deck]

Mana base is fine, not great. You get to cast all your non green spells on time and (mostly)on curve.

Is the Splash worth it? Mistcutter hydra and Xenagos are good cards that are absent and probably deserve inclusion in the 75. On top of that there's half a set remaining to be spoiled, so I'm optimistic.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby TBuzzsaw » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:07 am

4 Color tokens? Girl, you crazy.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:05 am

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Bloodstained Hero can't block.

Raid: [mana]1B[/mana]: Return a Bloodstained Hero from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only if you attacked with a creature this turn.


The translation is unconfirmed, but I wonder if a copy has to be on the field for the Raid to work, or you can bring it back from the graveyard even if you don't have a copy on the battlefield.
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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:31 am

Wow that card is fucking retarded.

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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:32 am

There's no way that's the right translation for that.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:03 am

That's correct. I think card is good, not ZOMG BUSTED though.

I mean, I'll definitely play it, but I'm assuming it's not as good as Soldier of the Pantheon. It DOES combo nicely with purphoros.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:11 am

That's correct. I think card is good, not ZOMG BUSTED though.

I mean, I'll definitely play it, but I'm assuming it's not as good as Soldier of the Pantheon. It DOES combo nicely with purphoros.
We're going to have to disagree here. I don't know if you've ever played with Bloodghast, but this card is almost as good as that, and Bloodghast is REALLY good.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:24 am

Card is nowhere near as good as bloodghast. Ghast had situational haste and was recurable by simply playing magic.

This card is a solid one-drop that requires actual mana spent to recur. It's still good, but it's not busted.

Having to attack is also a mostly marginal but real cost in addition to the fact that you have to recur on your turn and not instant speed like ghast with fetches.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:43 am

That seems quite powerful...
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:46 am

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That thing is ridiculous if it's real.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:12 am

Now THAT'S a stupid magic card!
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:27 am

I remember Gravecrawler...

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Postby Jack » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:31 am

Heyyyy a multicolor card I actually want to play in Riku.
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Postby Pedros » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:54 am

Pedros!

Starting the 4 color token monstrosity brews.

[deck]4 Soldier of the Pantheon
1 Herald of Anafenza
4 Raise the Alarm
1 Tymaret, the Murder King
3 Brimaz
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Purphors, God of the Forge
3 Butcher of the Horde

2 Mardu Ascendancy
1 Abzan Ascendancy
1 Spear of Heliod
2 Suspension Field

3 Mardu Charm

2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2 Ajani, Steadfast
1 Ajani, Mentor of Heros

2 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
1 Forest
3 Battlefield Forge
3 Caves of Koilois
1 Temple of Malice
3 Nomads Outpost
3 Mana Confluence
2 Windswept Heath
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Wooded Foothills[/deck]

Mana base is fine, not great. You get to cast all your non green spells on time and (mostly)on curve.

Is the Splash worth it? Mistcutter
hydra and Xenagos are good cards that are absent and probably deserve inclusion in the 75. On top of that there's half a set remaining to be spoiled, so I'm optimistic.
My brew time would start when all cards are spoiled. I really like this set as I love 4 color decks.

I think core color would be white. Red probably splash only for rabblemaster/purphoros/ascendancy/charm. Cant discard blue (charms are awsome, along with potential negates and epharas) and green (charms, ascendancy, xenagos). I will have to work hard on manabases - I think I will use those tri-lands a lot.

And Soldier of the Pantheon is going to be huge.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:19 pm

Three years of black having better 1 drops than white or red lol.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:52 pm

Three years of black having better 1 drops than white or red lol.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:52 pm

Also, just noticed the friendly fetches are being reprinted. This is good for my Zedruu deck.
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Postby Purp » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:20 pm

Jsilv drops a sweet article today. Mono Black aggro looks really appealing.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:38 pm

Jsilv drops a sweet article today. Mono Black aggro looks really appealing.
not really a fan of enchantment creatures in a format where End Hostilities will be the go-to sweeper.
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Postby Purp » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:49 pm

Agreed there. But I think mogis marauder will be pretty awesome in the format. Also, the bloodsoaked warrior has some great syngergy with the Butcher.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:02 pm

Agreed there. But I think mogis marauder will be pretty awesome in the format. Also, the bloodsoaked warrior has some great syngergy with the Butcher.
Well, of course we'll have to see how it all plays out but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Marauder was actually much weaker in the new format. Remember, we're getting 3 full clans whose creatures will have B in their mana costs (Mardu, Abzan, Sultai). That could mean a lot less intimidate goodness.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:13 pm

Marauder and crew are going to be awful if Abzan aggro/midrange takes off. They won't be intimidating Goat Lady and rhino anytime soon.
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Something tells me I am not going to like this Standard much more than the last. I hate battlecruiser Magic.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:44 pm

I think Alex is thinking the one drop an recur any creature with his name? Way to take the translation literally...
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Postby Pedros » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:48 pm

Black/X agro looks quite good.

Question if it can handle Caryatid and X/4 for 3 and X/5 for 4. Imediate answer -> not really currently. Cant see any 2 mana removal spell that does it, or any combat tricks similar to makka. Best answer? Fly over or go wide.
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Postby Pedros » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:58 pm

Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:38 pm

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:11 pm

Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Picked them up with FNM prize money at $8 when Khans was announced.

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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:14 pm

Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Picked them up with FNM prize money at $8 when Khans was announced.
Sweet brag but would you buy them at $15?

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Postby Valdarith » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:18 pm

I don't think they will be lower than $15 for awhile. I'd be confident in buying if I needed them.
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Postby Tyrael » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:22 pm

Black/X agro looks quite good.

Question if it can handle Caryatid and X/4 for 3 and X/5 for 4. Imediate answer -> not really currently. Cant see any 2 mana removal spell that does it, or any combat tricks similar to makka. Best answer? Fly over or go wide.
Spiteful Returned, Agent of The Fates, Ruthless Ripper, ...

I don't know but splashing white might not be that bad of an idea considering we get Athreos, the new Sorin, Utter End and Suspension Field (maybe Banishing Light too) as excellent additions to the list.

Man, if only they had reprinted Xathrid Necromancer...
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:27 pm

Black/X agro looks quite good.

Question if it can handle Caryatid and X/4 for 3 and X/5 for 4. Imediate answer -> not really currently. Cant see any 2 mana removal spell that does it, or any combat tricks similar to makka. Best answer? Fly over or go wide.
Spiteful Returned, Agent of The Fates, Ruthless Ripper, ...

I don't know but splashing white might not be that bad of an idea considering we get Athreos, the new Sorin, Utter End and Suspension Field (maybe Banishing Light too) as excellent additions to the list.[/quote:
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some mono black aggro decks have played Boon of Erebos.

This set will also provide Murderous Cut and Crackling Doom to help black/Mardu get through fatty blockers.
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:46 pm

They kinda did reprint Necromancer.

http://www.mythicspoiler.com/ktk/cards/ ... uspex.html
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:46 pm

WOTC playing with my emotions. RUG was looking awesome, then I liked Jeskai, and now Mardu looks pretty enticing.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:53 pm

I want to play something that has Rabblemaster because army in a can. And the Butcher looks like a solid magic card with decent synergy with Rabblemaster. And now the black one-drop looks solid as well and ALSO has synergy with the Butcher. So I'm all-in on Mardu.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:54 pm

just need to figure out the 2-drop spot.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:20 pm

just need to figure out the 2-drop spot.
Tymaret, the Murder King?
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:26 pm

Dont have a single Mana Confluence. Would you buy them for 15$ each?
Picked them up with FNM prize money at $8 when Khans was announced.
Sweet brag but would you buy them at $15?
If you plan to play multicolour, yes. If you want to force mono colour, no. Or you could force mono at the beginning of the season and punish people who don't have their decks worked out to collect prize money
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