[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:45 am

Half your posts are unhelpful.

Saying, 'blahs bad, your stupid, I'm the pro' helps no one and just makes you look bad.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:49 am

In other news Anthony Lowry's articles are mostly terrible. I even really like GR agro, but I think his build, writing style and reasoning are all just...off.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:50 am

I'm very happy shock is back.

I just wish it was actually shock so I could use my pimp foils.

Remember when everyone on Sally was bitching about the Lightning Strike spoiler?

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:51 am

In other news Anthony Lowry's articles are mostly terrible. I even really like GR agro, but I think his build, writing style and reasoning are all just...off.

I agree. He means well, but he's on the Select side for a reason.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:52 am

Can Aristocrats finally be a thing in Modern?

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:59 am

It probably shouldn't?

The deck does a lot of cool things, but the formats to powerful for you to have a half aggressive deck with underpowered pieces just lying around. Doomed traveler and bloodsoaked champion are cool and let you do sweet things, but exarch+splinter twin is the sweetest of things.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:00 am

The new thing is scum or idiot. If you're playing a good tier 1 deck, your dickriding scum that can't come up with his own ideas, and if you play a meta deck like tron or a brew, your an idiot because your just gonna lose to all the scum.

Nobody ever wins at this game.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:03 am

Playing affinity. My turn 1 ornithoptor, mox, plating draw has been trumped by miracle terminus.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:13 am

You deserve it you tier 1 deck dickriding scum.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:26 am

I'm very happy shock is back.

I just wish it was actually shock so I could use my pimp foils.
Remember when everyone on Sally was bitching about the Lightning Strike spoiler?

No?

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:27 am

Sad that Cruise and Dig were banned. If they had stayed in the format I could have seen unbanning BBE but no way that gets unbanned when they ban other powerful cards. I wish WOTC would "police" Modern by unbans and powerful printings rather than bans, but oh well.

Considering they were going to ban TC and DTT I'm kinda happy about the Pod ban too. That's often been my worst matchup.

Back to my 'goyfs and bobs I guess.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:27 am

I don't know where affinity falls on the scum idiocy scale.

I'll settle for being a budgcaj

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:30 am

Half your posts are unhelpful.

Saying, 'blahs bad, your stupid, I'm the pro' helps no one and just makes you look bad.

Got it, you agree with half if what I post.

Purp · Postby **Purp** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:32 am

LP sure is active on Mlk day...

So is Zem...racist

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:34 am

Check that black privilege boys

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:40 am

trigger alert

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:43 am

To quote the Asian guy from the place I play legacy at "it's not racist if I'm right", I have no idea what that has to do with anything but I've found it to be a powerful piece of advice that has shaped my worldview substantially

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:00 am

I'm very happy shock is back.

I just wish it was actually shock so I could use my pimp foils.
Remember when everyone on Sally was bitching about the Lightning Strike spoiler?
No?

Everyone was bitching about them printing it instead of reprinting Searing Spear. Your post reminded me of that.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:06 am

Not racist, I have disdain for all things to the best of my abilities.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:28 am

I'm very happy shock is back.

I just wish it was actually shock so I could use my pimp foils.
Remember when everyone on Sally was bitching about the Lightning Strike spoiler?
No?
Everyone was bitching about them printing it instead of reprinting Searing Spear. Your post reminded me of that.

I was one of those people.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:33 am

That $2.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:36 am

Zem is a bigoted bushman

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:37 am

It was more the fact that I collected the FNM foils just for them to functional reprint it a couple month later.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:38 am

I want to play this:

[deck]Creatures:24
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Mardu Scout
4 Flamewake Phoenix
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Fanatic of Mogis
2 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells:11
4 Chained to the Rocks
3 Crater's Claws
4 Lightning Strike

Lands:25
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Evolving Wilds
10 Mountain
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph

Sideboard:15
3 Erase
3 Wild Slash
1 Glare of Heresy
1 Arc Lightning
4 Hushwing Gryff
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion[/deck]

Any feedback?

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:42 am

Or possibly this (Sam Pardee's):

[deck]Creatures:24
4 Bloodsoaked Champion
2 Tymaret, the Murder King
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Butcher of the Horde
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells:12
4 Chained to the Rocks
3 Tormenting Voice
4 Crackling Doom
1 Murderous Cut

Lands:24
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Caves of Koilos
5 Mountain
4 Nomad Outpost
1 Swamp
3 Temple of Silence
3 Temple of Triumph
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Sideboard:15
3 Erase
2 Glare of Heresy
3 Arc Lightning
3 Read the Bones
2 Crux of Fate
2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion[/deck]

Reminds me of the Aristocrats <3

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:45 am

I'm very happy shock is back.

I just wish it was actually shock so I could use my pimp foils.
Remember when everyone on Sally was bitching about the Lightning Strike spoiler?
No?
Everyone was bitching about them printing it instead of reprinting Searing Spear. Your post reminded me of that.

Oh yeah, I remember that now.

Whatever. The new cards fit the flavor. But I still want to use my foil Pyschatog Shocks. And you would too if you owned them.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:46 am

Don't play evolving wilds or plains. Play 2 windscarred crags and the 11th mountain.

You'd also rather have hammer of purphoros and more phoenix then the lightning strike. Red devotion mulligans terribly, so you want the VAST majority of your deck to be permanents to fuel the nykthos draws when you get them.

sideboards up in the air. Valorous stance should be there though as that card does everything. I'd consider maining a single copy of it as an extra removal spell that doubles as a counterspell.

Whether or not devotion is good depends on how aggressive the format is. The slower, the better as you just eat up decks that let you develop your board without pressuing you.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:47 am

I want to play UB control and RG agro so that I can trick people at events with my deck choices(and because those decks are great).

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:49 am

I'm either playing some RW/Mardu build or UB Control.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:52 am

Don't play evolving wilds or plains. Play 2 windscarred crags and the 11th mountain.

You'd also rather have hammer of purphoros and more phoenix then the lightning strike. Red devotion mulligans terribly, so you want the VAST majority of your deck to be permanents to fuel the nykthos draws when you get them.

sideboards up in the air. Valorous stance should be there though as that card does everything. I'd consider maining a single copy of it as an extra removal spell that doubles as a counterspell.

Whether or not devotion is good depends on how aggressive the format is. The slower, the better as you just eat up decks that let you develop your board without pressuing you.

[deck]Creatures:26
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Mardu Scout
4 Flamewake Phoenix
2 Prophetic Flamespeaker
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Fanatic of Mogis
2 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Stormbreath Dragon

Spells:9
4 Chained to the Rocks
3 Crater's Claws
1 Hammer of Purphoros
1 Valorous Stance

Lands:25
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Wind-Scarred Crag
11 Mountain
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph

Sideboard:15
3 Erase
3 Wild Slash
1 Valorous Stance
1 Arc Lightning
4 Hushwing Gryff
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion[/deck]

This?

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:55 am

I expect the format to be pretty aggro starting out, so maybe a poor starting choice?

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:02 am

The more I play the deck, the less good I think it is.

The best shell for flamewake phoenix by a mile is with butcher of the horde if you really want to play the card(which I don't fault you fair since it answers a lot of the questions this format asks).

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:04 am

I value your opinion. Thanks for talking through it with me.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:09 am

I see all these Red Devotion lists and they all look really bad. It's just not the same without Burning-Tree Emissary and Boros Reckoner.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:13 am

It doesn't look bad on paper.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:21 am

Nah they do look worse positioned (given their card pool) against the meta compared to last year. Devotion now has lower creature quality than before whereas average creature quality has improved. Wouldn't touch.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:28 am

The creatures aren't the problem so much as the speed. With burning-tree, you could have a handful of whatever, but it would all be on the board by turn 3-5. Weird>tree>nykthos fanatic take 5 on turn 3. Zealout>weird, burning tree reckoner, Chandra, turn 4.

Now, you have a normal curve with the payoff coming on turn 6/7 if most of your board stays intact which is a big iff, but the big cards are all good. The threats are all more resilient for the most part since there's no doom blade ruining your day. Unfortunately, you're still VERY weak to thoughtseize and closing is a lot harder when you have to pay full price for your cards through the midgame.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:29 am

Of course, the easiest way of saying that was it's not about the cards, it's about the mana, but you get the gist.

nme · Postby **nme** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:56 am

How bad is Faeries? I assume bad because it seems non existent on MTGO.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:00 am

Dies to Removal

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